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<blockquote data-quote="boar" data-source="post: 4637823" data-attributes="member: 81932"><p>Keterys, I'd be fine with "leaving it there" if it weren't for a profound flaw with your argument. I agree that having or not having AV makes a big difference for dwarves. What you're ignoring is the fact that having or not having AV makes a big difference for <em>everyone</em>. Fighters, paladins, warlords, and even clerics -- that's half the classes in the PHB -- suffer from the absence of AV, regardless of race.</p><p></p><p>The PHB has a grand total of four superior weapons, two of which don't apply to STR-based melee characters. A third one, the spiked chain, is basically worse than a greatsword unless you care about reach. So if a player says, "I want to spend a feat to gain access to a high-damage weapon," their option is...bastard sword. That's it. Anyone -- not just dwarves -- who wants to use a powerful axe, hammer, spear, or even two-handed sword is screwed without AV. Does this mean that "Weapon Proficiency" is a poorly designed feat, since its value improves TREMENDOUSLY with the addition of AV? By your logic, it does.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there's a problem, but DWT isn't it. The true problem is the lack of superior weapons in the Player's Handbook, or more specifically, the power discrepancy in superior weapons between the PHB and AV. This hurts all STR-based melee fighters who want to do lots of damage, not just dwarves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="boar, post: 4637823, member: 81932"] Keterys, I'd be fine with "leaving it there" if it weren't for a profound flaw with your argument. I agree that having or not having AV makes a big difference for dwarves. What you're ignoring is the fact that having or not having AV makes a big difference for [I]everyone[/I]. Fighters, paladins, warlords, and even clerics -- that's half the classes in the PHB -- suffer from the absence of AV, regardless of race. The PHB has a grand total of four superior weapons, two of which don't apply to STR-based melee characters. A third one, the spiked chain, is basically worse than a greatsword unless you care about reach. So if a player says, "I want to spend a feat to gain access to a high-damage weapon," their option is...bastard sword. That's it. Anyone -- not just dwarves -- who wants to use a powerful axe, hammer, spear, or even two-handed sword is screwed without AV. Does this mean that "Weapon Proficiency" is a poorly designed feat, since its value improves TREMENDOUSLY with the addition of AV? By your logic, it does. Yes, there's a problem, but DWT isn't it. The true problem is the lack of superior weapons in the Player's Handbook, or more specifically, the power discrepancy in superior weapons between the PHB and AV. This hurts all STR-based melee fighters who want to do lots of damage, not just dwarves. [/QUOTE]
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