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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Beholder Bob" data-source="post: 1152151" data-attributes="member: 12866">If youd rather, then consider the +4 sp + 1/lv a +2 feat equivelent.  A feat that gives the PC +1 sp per level would be pretty good.  A feat that gave you +3 skill points (+4 after the other feat gives +1 for 1st level) would be pretty good.  A feat that did both would be outragous.  I divided it into 2 parts as I can see a race getting either aspect without the entire package.As to a favored class: it is the implied flexibility of choice - the elf is locked into wizard as his choice, the 1/2 orc as fighter, gnome as bard, etc.  These races do not have to take these classes, but the benefit of a favored class is implicit with the race.  The human and 1/2 elf player have options the other players lack.  Now, a feat that gives you a particular class as favored class is equal to a feat, so the bonus this gives is as good, my guess was about 1/2 as good.Ok - after all that - sure, I could see your point.  I differ on my opinion, but see where you are coming from.  I may disagree, but I could see your view in application.  It would change things to:HUMANS 2DWARVES 5 3/4ELVES 4 3/4GNOMES 6HALF-ELVES 3 3/4HALF-ORCS 1HALFLINGS 3 3/4Who would have guessed the gnomes were so tough (assuming my 3/2 bonus for 0th & first lv spells is accurate)?</blockquote>