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<blockquote data-quote="Beholder Bob" data-source="post: 1152217" data-attributes="member: 12866"><p>Yes and no. +1 DC to all illusion spells is the same as Illusion spell focus. The bonus of +4 to a specific type of save (poison) is equal to +2 for a class of save category (FORT) - both are feats. It gets tricky when evaluating the bonuses for stuff not listed. Re-thinking it, the bonus feat for a human is equal to 3/2 feat, as it is open for choice, while classes getting bonuses have then pre-chosen and I'm counting those as a feat.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">• Spell-Like Abilities: 1/day—speak with animals (burrowing mammal only, duration 1 minute). A gnome with a Charisma score of at least 10 also has the following spell-like abilities: 1/day—dancing lights, ghost sound, prestidigitation. Caster level 1st; save DC 10 + gnome’s Cha modifier + spell level.</span></p><p>I agree with you that the bonus against kobald/goblin/orc is not worth a feat - but the ac bonus against giant size is (a +4 ac against all giant class creatures ain't that bad) and is worth a feat. I forgot to add that to the dwarf.</p><p>Perhaps I should scale the Gnome ability down to 1 feat instead of 3/2?</p><p></p><p>Souljourner - it is not possible to create an exact numeric comparison without arbitrary decisions - but a rough guide is indeed possible. We make a rough guide in our heads when we compare them already, why not a guestimate you can refer to and refine over time & by comparing your view with others?</p><p></p><p>Thels - I gave small size no bonus or penalty because the gain (+1 ac & att) is good, and the 20' move is crappy, making it an even rub to me.</p><p></p><p>HUMANS 4</p><p>DWARVES 6 3/4</p><p>ELVES 4 3/4</p><p>GNOMES 5 1/2</p><p>HALF-ELVES 4 1/4</p><p>HALF-ORCS 1</p><p>HALFLINGS 3 3/4</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beholder Bob, post: 1152217, member: 12866"] Yes and no. +1 DC to all illusion spells is the same as Illusion spell focus. The bonus of +4 to a specific type of save (poison) is equal to +2 for a class of save category (FORT) - both are feats. It gets tricky when evaluating the bonuses for stuff not listed. Re-thinking it, the bonus feat for a human is equal to 3/2 feat, as it is open for choice, while classes getting bonuses have then pre-chosen and I'm counting those as a feat. [SIZE=1]• Spell-Like Abilities: 1/day—speak with animals (burrowing mammal only, duration 1 minute). A gnome with a Charisma score of at least 10 also has the following spell-like abilities: 1/day—dancing lights, ghost sound, prestidigitation. Caster level 1st; save DC 10 + gnome’s Cha modifier + spell level.[/SIZE] I agree with you that the bonus against kobald/goblin/orc is not worth a feat - but the ac bonus against giant size is (a +4 ac against all giant class creatures ain't that bad) and is worth a feat. I forgot to add that to the dwarf. Perhaps I should scale the Gnome ability down to 1 feat instead of 3/2? Souljourner - it is not possible to create an exact numeric comparison without arbitrary decisions - but a rough guide is indeed possible. We make a rough guide in our heads when we compare them already, why not a guestimate you can refer to and refine over time & by comparing your view with others? Thels - I gave small size no bonus or penalty because the gain (+1 ac & att) is good, and the 20' move is crappy, making it an even rub to me. HUMANS 4 DWARVES 6 3/4 ELVES 4 3/4 GNOMES 5 1/2 HALF-ELVES 4 1/4 HALF-ORCS 1 HALFLINGS 3 3/4 [/QUOTE]
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