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<blockquote data-quote="mhacdebhandia" data-source="post: 3008165" data-attributes="member: 18832"><p>The problem is that you are proceeding from false premises.</p><p></p><p>If by "robots" you mean warforged, for instance, well . . . warforged are intelligent golems, magically constructed from stone, live wood, and metal by ancient artifacts of a long-dead civilisation, endowed with true life in a way that is not understood by their creators. The creation forges that gave them form, animation, and eventually life were energised by the inherent power wielded by a bloodline of humans who bear a magical mark upon their flesh, which may or may not have something to do with a prophecy encoded in the earth, sea, and sky of the world.</p><p></p><p>There's no <strong>science</strong> there, man.</p><p></p><p>Are "spaceships" spelljammers? Magically-altered ships propelled by the sacrifice of the magical energies of spellcasters sitting in enchanted chairs through the empty internal space of unimaginably enormous crystal spheres floating in an even more incredibly vast sea of some highly-flammable, rainbow-coloured medium, those spheres lit by stars which are massive portals to the Plane of Radiance or to some even stranger destination?</p><p></p><p>There's no science there.</p><p></p><p>Or are "spaceships" the elemental skyships of Eberron? Fantastic magic vessels built largely from the lighter-than-air wood of a rare variety of tree, given their rapid means of propulsion by an enslaved elemental bound using techniques which date back thousands of years to the same ancient empire whose arcane might provided the pattern for the creation forges which birthed warforged, controlled in their flight by yet another dynasty bearing marks of power, this one members of a true-breeding hybrid race of elves and men?</p><p></p><p>There's no science there.</p><p></p><p>I can't think of a setting which has truly incorporated into itself honest-to-goodness technnology in the science fiction sense <strong>except</strong>, ironically, the original pseudo-medieval swords-and-sorcery or Tolkienesque settings like Greyhawk and Blackmoor. Every modern example of "science fiction" in D&D turns out to be nothing more than an extrapolation of the long-standing implications of the level and scope of magic that has been present in any given setting, or some altered variation of the same (such as Eberron, which presumes that there is more widespread low-level magic making for <em>everburning lanterns</em> as streetlights and the like, but much less high-level magic).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mhacdebhandia, post: 3008165, member: 18832"] The problem is that you are proceeding from false premises. If by "robots" you mean warforged, for instance, well . . . warforged are intelligent golems, magically constructed from stone, live wood, and metal by ancient artifacts of a long-dead civilisation, endowed with true life in a way that is not understood by their creators. The creation forges that gave them form, animation, and eventually life were energised by the inherent power wielded by a bloodline of humans who bear a magical mark upon their flesh, which may or may not have something to do with a prophecy encoded in the earth, sea, and sky of the world. There's no [b]science[/b] there, man. Are "spaceships" spelljammers? Magically-altered ships propelled by the sacrifice of the magical energies of spellcasters sitting in enchanted chairs through the empty internal space of unimaginably enormous crystal spheres floating in an even more incredibly vast sea of some highly-flammable, rainbow-coloured medium, those spheres lit by stars which are massive portals to the Plane of Radiance or to some even stranger destination? There's no science there. Or are "spaceships" the elemental skyships of Eberron? Fantastic magic vessels built largely from the lighter-than-air wood of a rare variety of tree, given their rapid means of propulsion by an enslaved elemental bound using techniques which date back thousands of years to the same ancient empire whose arcane might provided the pattern for the creation forges which birthed warforged, controlled in their flight by yet another dynasty bearing marks of power, this one members of a true-breeding hybrid race of elves and men? There's no science there. I can't think of a setting which has truly incorporated into itself honest-to-goodness technnology in the science fiction sense [b]except[/b], ironically, the original pseudo-medieval swords-and-sorcery or Tolkienesque settings like Greyhawk and Blackmoor. Every modern example of "science fiction" in D&D turns out to be nothing more than an extrapolation of the long-standing implications of the level and scope of magic that has been present in any given setting, or some altered variation of the same (such as Eberron, which presumes that there is more widespread low-level magic making for [i]everburning lanterns[/i] as streetlights and the like, but much less high-level magic). [/QUOTE]
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