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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 3012309" data-attributes="member: 19675">Last things first- Tolkien wasn't wrong, but neither was he right.  LotR is not the Bible of fantasy- there isn't one.  He was expressing his personal opinion.  That's all.He didn't create the fantasy genre- not unless he had a time machine and wrote under an alias.  His opinion on what belongs in fantasy is no more or no less valid than the sci-fant writers who followed him or predated him.And to imply Hickman and Weis's similar opinion somehow invalidates the work of the luminaries I and others have mentioned...Words fail.I'm pretty sure legions of mathmeticians, astronomers, architects and engineers would disagree with your belitlling of math- it at least meets the first criteria you posted. If my 20 year scientific enquiry (following all the rules of research) on the subject of why Faerunese Dragons fly or how Wish spells violate the laws of thermodynamic turns up with only one answer- Magic- then so be it. Yep- you apparently think comedy invalidates fantasy as well.  Like anachronisms, comedy is as much a part of fantasy as a magic dagger.A two-wheeled human powered cart (bike) at Arthur's court is no more inherently absurd than a 100' long flying reptile that breathes fire or a castle that floats on clouds.Bikes are great, but as I and others already pointed out, you wouldn't have a knight riding one into battle against a dragon- its unsuited to the task- a horse is superior for reasons of balance, mass and leverege.  He'd no more use a bike for such an attack than he'd use a Braun Electric Shaver as his main weapon.  "Suffer the death of 1,000 shallow cuts and nicks, and the the burn of the Brut aftershave, vile Wurm!"So you say...still waiting for some kind of evidence that is not indicative of a very narrowly defined view of fantasy literature.</blockquote>

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