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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zander" data-source="post: 3012493" data-attributes="member: 1364">The fantasy genre has evolved over millennia starting with the earliest mythology and distilled by countless storytellers and audiences over the ages. Along the way, such greats as Homer, Apollonius of Rhodes and Edmund Spenser have contributed to it.WotC are happy to disregard that tradition and, by extension, all the people great and small who have contributed to the genre.Words fail.They can argue with Karl Popper, perhaps the most eminent philosopher of science of the 20th century, if they like.Incidentally, I didn't belittle maths at all. French literature isn't a science either (though for different reasons). How am I "belittling" it by saying so?Science abhors the irrational. If after 20 years of scientific research you found that various phenomena were due to magic, you would need to continue your research until you found otherwise. When comedy is being used to parody fantasy, that may tell you more about comedy than it does about fantasy. When examining the effect of science and technology on the integrity of a fantasy setting, introducing elements such as comedy only serves to complicate the analysis by introducing another variable. When addressing the science / fantasy question, it helps not to introduce other complicating factors. Fantasy is a genre and, as such, is limited. If you believe that fantasy = all fiction, then my own view of fantasy might be considered "very narrow". I'm not alone though. If you look at the various threads on these boards about gnomes, knights and so on, you will see that other posters not just myself have voiced dissatisfaction with the flavour of these elements in the latest version of D&D. The criticisms raised by many of them are a result of WotC's willingness to over-write fantasy tropes.</blockquote>

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