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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 3014808" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>That's the reason we're arguing with you. Most people here (from what I've seen) wouldn't consider these two titles to be fantasy. A bit later, you say fantasy is old; while again, most disagree. Many have said, to the contrary, that fantasy is a very young genre, one that until recently was just a subset of science-fiction.</p><p></p><p>You seem to confuse fantasy with one part of its inspiration, mythology. D&D is a fantasy game, not a mythology game. Fantasy can be used to parody myths and folktales, and as often been used for that purpose.</p><p></p><p>There are several specific genre: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastique" target="_blank">fantastique</a> (also known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic" target="_blank">fantastic</a>), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_fiction" target="_blank">horror</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology" target="_blank">mythology</a> (as well as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_poems" target="_blank">epics</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend" target="_blank">legends</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_tale" target="_blank">fairy tales</a>), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction" target="_blank">science-fiction</a> and its many overlapping subgenres (hard and soft, pulp, space opera, political fiction, speculative fiction, etc.).</p><p></p><p>And in all that, fantasy is the genre that grabs bits from everyone and can't be catalogued neatly. High fantasy such as Tolkien's tries to be mythology. Sword & sorcery heavily leans toward pulp sci-fi. Sometimes, fantasy is treading on horror's lawn, othertime it's mugging fairy tales in a back alley. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance" target="_blank">Jack Vance</a>'s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_Earth" target="_blank">Dying Earth</a></em>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ronald_Reuel_Tolkien" target="_blank">J.R.R. Tolkien</a>'s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth" target="_blank">Middle-Earth</a></em>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Leiber" target="_blank">Fritz Leiber</a>'s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lankhmar" target="_blank">Lankhmar</a></em>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Blaylock" target="_blank">James P. Blaylock</a>'s <em>Balumnia</em>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Howard" target="_blank">R.E. Howard</a>'s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian" target="_blank">Conan the Barbarian</a></em>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._K._Rowling" target="_blank">Joann K. Rowling</a>'s <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_potter" target="_blank">Harry Potter</a></em> are all works of fantasy, and they're all very different and follow different conventions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 3014808, member: 1328"] That's the reason we're arguing with you. Most people here (from what I've seen) wouldn't consider these two titles to be fantasy. A bit later, you say fantasy is old; while again, most disagree. Many have said, to the contrary, that fantasy is a very young genre, one that until recently was just a subset of science-fiction. You seem to confuse fantasy with one part of its inspiration, mythology. D&D is a fantasy game, not a mythology game. Fantasy can be used to parody myths and folktales, and as often been used for that purpose. There are several specific genre: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastique]fantastique[/url] (also known as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic]fantastic[/url]), [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_fiction]horror[/url], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythology]mythology[/url] (as well as [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_poems]epics[/url], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend]legends[/url] and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_tale]fairy tales[/url]), [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction]science-fiction[/url] and its many overlapping subgenres (hard and soft, pulp, space opera, political fiction, speculative fiction, etc.). And in all that, fantasy is the genre that grabs bits from everyone and can't be catalogued neatly. High fantasy such as Tolkien's tries to be mythology. Sword & sorcery heavily leans toward pulp sci-fi. Sometimes, fantasy is treading on horror's lawn, othertime it's mugging fairy tales in a back alley. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Vance]Jack Vance[/url]'s [i][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_Earth]Dying Earth[/url][/i], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ronald_Reuel_Tolkien]J.R.R. Tolkien[/url]'s [i][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth]Middle-Earth[/url][/i], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Leiber]Fritz Leiber[/url]'s [i][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lankhmar]Lankhmar[/url][/i], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Blaylock]James P. Blaylock[/url]'s [i]Balumnia[/i], [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Howard]R.E. Howard[/url]'s [i][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian]Conan the Barbarian[/url][/i], and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._K._Rowling]Joann K. Rowling[/url]'s [i][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_potter]Harry Potter[/url][/i] are all works of fantasy, and they're all very different and follow different conventions. [/QUOTE]
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