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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3016361" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>So, we should ignore the VAST amount of fantasy literature of the past 50 years? There were more fantasy novels produced since 2000 than have been produced in the 20th century. Even if many are crap, sheer volume means that there are some real gems in there. The sun doesn't rise and set on Tolkein. Thank goodness for that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pardon? Tolkein was popular? What was Tolkein's first bestseller? The Silmarillion. And he didn't even write that one alone. The ONLY reason we even know who Tolkein was is because he was an Oxford don who got his books put on reading academic reading lists. </p><p></p><p>Do I love the books? Of course I do. I play D&D after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But, to try to say that Tolkein was some sort of iconic writer of fantasy is ludicrous. </p><p></p><p>Try this one. Name ten fantasy authors from the 1970's without looking them up. We're fantasy FANS. We should know these things. We don't because there was so little material to work with. </p><p></p><p>What possible reason is there to limit D&D to dead writers? With the huge number of VERY VERY good fantasy being written today, to stick our heads in the past is just a very good way to kill the hobby as younger generations who couldn't care less about the Hobbit in favor of Harry Potter pass the game by as something played by old people.</p><p></p><p>BTW, you've mentioned Matthew Sernett more than once. What exactly did he say and where did he say it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Almost forgot this bit. So, D&D skips the source material and twists it and changes it, and that's ok, because.... But, if we are to use the source material as written, then we wind up with something you don't like and that would be bad. Am I understanding that correctly?</p><p></p><p>I could create a PC race of flesh golems similar to Frankenstein's monster and use them in D&D. Intelligent, sentient beings questioning their existence. Or, I can wrap them up in metal and do the same thing and get Warforged. Granted, they're created magically rather than with "science" (such as it is), but, the end result is the same.</p><p></p><p>Tried and true - yup. Stands the test of time - yup. Iconic figure that resonates - yup.</p><p></p><p>What's wrong with the picture?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3016361, member: 22779"] So, we should ignore the VAST amount of fantasy literature of the past 50 years? There were more fantasy novels produced since 2000 than have been produced in the 20th century. Even if many are crap, sheer volume means that there are some real gems in there. The sun doesn't rise and set on Tolkein. Thank goodness for that. Pardon? Tolkein was popular? What was Tolkein's first bestseller? The Silmarillion. And he didn't even write that one alone. The ONLY reason we even know who Tolkein was is because he was an Oxford don who got his books put on reading academic reading lists. Do I love the books? Of course I do. I play D&D after all. :) But, to try to say that Tolkein was some sort of iconic writer of fantasy is ludicrous. Try this one. Name ten fantasy authors from the 1970's without looking them up. We're fantasy FANS. We should know these things. We don't because there was so little material to work with. What possible reason is there to limit D&D to dead writers? With the huge number of VERY VERY good fantasy being written today, to stick our heads in the past is just a very good way to kill the hobby as younger generations who couldn't care less about the Hobbit in favor of Harry Potter pass the game by as something played by old people. BTW, you've mentioned Matthew Sernett more than once. What exactly did he say and where did he say it? Almost forgot this bit. So, D&D skips the source material and twists it and changes it, and that's ok, because.... But, if we are to use the source material as written, then we wind up with something you don't like and that would be bad. Am I understanding that correctly? I could create a PC race of flesh golems similar to Frankenstein's monster and use them in D&D. Intelligent, sentient beings questioning their existence. Or, I can wrap them up in metal and do the same thing and get Warforged. Granted, they're created magically rather than with "science" (such as it is), but, the end result is the same. Tried and true - yup. Stands the test of time - yup. Iconic figure that resonates - yup. What's wrong with the picture? [/QUOTE]
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