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<blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 3047263" data-attributes="member: 3477"><p>Your assumption is wrong, as I already pointed out in post #305. The Grimms point out that there are beautiful elves and ugly elves, and dwarves is one name usually used for the ugly ones. They explicitly say that the dwarf Alberich sits in between, because he is both at the same time, light and dark elf.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now you tell us the dwarves from Snow White were just humans? May well be. But then this does not really belong into a discussion about fantasy. The dwarves from myths were always magical beings, as are the ones in other Grimm fairy tales, like Snow-White and Rose-Red.</p><p></p><p>However, it's time to end these circling discussions. Although you say that you want WotC to follow many "traditional" influences for fantasy creatures, I don't see your view of tradition go far beyond Tolkien standards, which represent a small slice of northern European tradition with a few inventions, like his elves or his hobbits. Real tradition goes far beyond that and doesn't have set distinctions between D&D's stereotypical fantasy races. It's all in flow. I got it that you don't like that. It's a pity that D&D doesn't follow your handpicked sources but makes use of the wealth of different traditions. But keep in mind that what you see as "traditional" is a very personal subset of what is out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turjan, post: 3047263, member: 3477"] Your assumption is wrong, as I already pointed out in post #305. The Grimms point out that there are beautiful elves and ugly elves, and dwarves is one name usually used for the ugly ones. They explicitly say that the dwarf Alberich sits in between, because he is both at the same time, light and dark elf. Now you tell us the dwarves from Snow White were just humans? May well be. But then this does not really belong into a discussion about fantasy. The dwarves from myths were always magical beings, as are the ones in other Grimm fairy tales, like Snow-White and Rose-Red. However, it's time to end these circling discussions. Although you say that you want WotC to follow many "traditional" influences for fantasy creatures, I don't see your view of tradition go far beyond Tolkien standards, which represent a small slice of northern European tradition with a few inventions, like his elves or his hobbits. Real tradition goes far beyond that and doesn't have set distinctions between D&D's stereotypical fantasy races. It's all in flow. I got it that you don't like that. It's a pity that D&D doesn't follow your handpicked sources but makes use of the wealth of different traditions. But keep in mind that what you see as "traditional" is a very personal subset of what is out there. [/QUOTE]
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