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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bganon" data-source="post: 4728393" data-attributes="member: 60886">Let's talk about elven archers for a second...  First off, STR is simply not key for every martial class; I can't understand why you would think that it is.  STR is, in fact, pretty close to a dump stat for an archer ranger, as CON is the better choice.  STR isn't useful for powers, and there aren't any archery feats with a STR prerequisite, but Hide Specialization at least requires CON 15, and there are plenty of feats (especially in MP) with a WIS prerequisite.  If you think +1 to attack is a big deal, shouldn't you be aiming for Improved Prime Shot?  And how can you argue that +1 to attack is a big deal and then ignore the fact that many Ranger powers let you add your WIS modifier to the attack roll?I'm not saying half-orc archers are bad... they're pretty good, and the differences may not be huge in the long run.  But is seems silly to me to even pretend that they're somehow more optimal archers than elves.  The STR bonus is nearly useless for a pure archer, Swift Charge is useless for a non-melee character, and if you do the math Furious Assault over many encounters is quite equivalent to Elven Accuracy (no better, but at least no worse).  Meanwhile, the proliferation of "shift X" ranger powers makes Wild Step enormously useful, and +1 speed is quite powerful (it's like having paragon feat from level 1!)Razorclaw shifters are closer, but they're like elves with all the racial benefits replaced by  one shifting power.  It's a nice power, but it gives no offensive benefit, unlike Elven Accuracy.  And it seems kind of funny to me to argue that a defensive benefit is more valuable to a striker than an offensive benefit.</blockquote>

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