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<blockquote data-quote="RulesJD" data-source="post: 6826612" data-attributes="member: 6808367">1.&nbsp; Assuming rolled stats is bad.&nbsp; Just bad.&nbsp; For the purposes of maximizing discussion, you can't use them because its an unknown variable that can greatly impact the outcome.&nbsp; Yay pointbuy.2.&nbsp; You being bad at tanking doesn't mean having &quot;only&quot; 16 Con is bad.&nbsp; For starts, you take 3 levels of barbarian, not just 2.&nbsp; That gives you 3 rages per day (3 &quot;hard fights&quot; which is most every adventuring day) and 1/2 damage from almost everything, not just b/p/s.&nbsp; That's a maaaaaaasive difference in survivability.3.&nbsp; You went too many levels into Fighter, imho.&nbsp; That's hurting your tankiness.&nbsp; Anything above 11 (or 12 if you really want that ASI for Toughness/stat bump) is losing you better options.&nbsp; For level 19 I would be 12 Fighter/1 Cleric/4 Barbarian/2 Rogue.&nbsp; Cunning Action for free Dashing/Disengaging when you don't feel like using the Polearm butt end.&nbsp; Plus Expertise in Stealth (or Perception) &amp; Athletics.This build yields 1 feat at creation (Variant H) and 5 ASIs.In order, PAM, GWM, Sent, Res (Wis), Tough, +2 either Str or Con, your pick.&nbsp; With the option of having Bless up, you can face down spell casters pretty well since you have STR/CON/WIS proficiency + Bless.&nbsp; For brawler fights, you have a 1/2 damage from everything and can do 3 attacks, disengage for free, and force PAM/Sent triggering attacks every round, potentially locking enemies out of range.&nbsp; If they have 15ft or less of reach, hit them with a Pushing attack when they trigger PAM AoO to lock them out of range (if Large or smaller).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RulesJD, post: 6826612, member: 6808367"] 1. Assuming rolled stats is bad. Just bad. For the purposes of maximizing discussion, you can't use them because its an unknown variable that can greatly impact the outcome. Yay pointbuy. 2. You being bad at tanking doesn't mean having "only" 16 Con is bad. For starts, you take 3 levels of barbarian, not just 2. That gives you 3 rages per day (3 "hard fights" which is most every adventuring day) and 1/2 damage from almost everything, not just b/p/s. That's a maaaaaaasive difference in survivability. 3. You went too many levels into Fighter, imho. That's hurting your tankiness. Anything above 11 (or 12 if you really want that ASI for Toughness/stat bump) is losing you better options. For level 19 I would be 12 Fighter/1 Cleric/4 Barbarian/2 Rogue. Cunning Action for free Dashing/Disengaging when you don't feel like using the Polearm butt end. Plus Expertise in Stealth (or Perception) & Athletics. This build yields 1 feat at creation (Variant H) and 5 ASIs. In order, PAM, GWM, Sent, Res (Wis), Tough, +2 either Str or Con, your pick. With the option of having Bless up, you can face down spell casters pretty well since you have STR/CON/WIS proficiency + Bless. For brawler fights, you have a 1/2 damage from everything and can do 3 attacks, disengage for free, and force PAM/Sent triggering attacks every round, potentially locking enemies out of range. If they have 15ft or less of reach, hit them with a Pushing attack when they trigger PAM AoO to lock them out of range (if Large or smaller). [/QUOTE]

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