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<blockquote data-quote="Kithas" data-source="post: 6828412" data-attributes="member: 97587"><p>Holy wall of text batman! I'm not even gonna partial quote because it's already bordering on a short novel around here.</p><p></p><p>Honestly I'm gonna have to agree with sm overall, it really doesn't seem like you are even entertaining our points and just postulating yours because we don't always play in AL. I've sat in on an AL game before and I've played some non-AL Wizards adventures. It seems like sm has too. It's just common decency to take someone's word when they said they've had an experience. Otherwise we can't even have a real discussion, it really boils down to the playground "my dad can beat up your dad" style arguments.</p><p></p><p>I would like to clarify some points;</p><p>I was speaking of Polearm master builds in general, not yours, when I said that they aren't the most tanky. I've played the same build you have for more levels and longer time, currently I am 17ftr and 2 barb, i have all the survivability your build does minus bear totem. We also made the mistake of letting me use heavy armor and HAM while raging. We have since realized and rectified this mistake(mistakes like this happened left and right at the AL games I've been to as well so they aren't immune). Even with that added amount of AC and damage reduction I go down literally all the time. To the point that I've taken to carrying around a sword and shield for tough looking fights because I need the extra AC. I try to caution people looking at this build that they shouldn't expect to always have smooth sailing just because they have medium/heavy armor and can rage, it doesn't work that way. </p><p></p><p>Sm's claim that your health would be sub-200 was for <strong>level 14</strong> when you said you fought tiamat. Not your current level 17 health. Also the 'take the average rounded up' rule for health isn't an AL thing, it's in the rules of each class. You can roll <strong>or</strong> take the average, you can do either in AL aswell.</p><p></p><p>You've also brought up him being a 'lawyer' twice as much as he has sooo...</p><p></p><p>Also an Ancient level dragon has 3<strong>-</strong>6 attacks, one bite at 35 average and two claws at 17, then up to 3 tail hits at 19 each. That's 120+ average damage per turn, not to mention the flame breath turn which is well over 150, you need to roll a 22 to pass that dex save. Easily enough to drop your 450 health in <strong>3-4 turns</strong>. Much less if he manages to crit. They also have 10-15' reach so you won't be stopping him from hitting you.</p><p></p><p>I think the op has gotten what he wants from this thread. I'm happy to discuss the finer points of pole-fighting with you if you'd like. I just ask that you give me the respect that I am affording you in this situation. /</p><p></p><p>p.s. I really can't tell, was that supposed to be an insult on my name? It's just a name I cobbled together 12 years ago and have been using since, not sure the joke there...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kithas, post: 6828412, member: 97587"] Holy wall of text batman! I'm not even gonna partial quote because it's already bordering on a short novel around here. Honestly I'm gonna have to agree with sm overall, it really doesn't seem like you are even entertaining our points and just postulating yours because we don't always play in AL. I've sat in on an AL game before and I've played some non-AL Wizards adventures. It seems like sm has too. It's just common decency to take someone's word when they said they've had an experience. Otherwise we can't even have a real discussion, it really boils down to the playground "my dad can beat up your dad" style arguments. I would like to clarify some points; I was speaking of Polearm master builds in general, not yours, when I said that they aren't the most tanky. I've played the same build you have for more levels and longer time, currently I am 17ftr and 2 barb, i have all the survivability your build does minus bear totem. We also made the mistake of letting me use heavy armor and HAM while raging. We have since realized and rectified this mistake(mistakes like this happened left and right at the AL games I've been to as well so they aren't immune). Even with that added amount of AC and damage reduction I go down literally all the time. To the point that I've taken to carrying around a sword and shield for tough looking fights because I need the extra AC. I try to caution people looking at this build that they shouldn't expect to always have smooth sailing just because they have medium/heavy armor and can rage, it doesn't work that way. Sm's claim that your health would be sub-200 was for [B]level 14[/B] when you said you fought tiamat. Not your current level 17 health. Also the 'take the average rounded up' rule for health isn't an AL thing, it's in the rules of each class. You can roll [B]or[/B] take the average, you can do either in AL aswell. You've also brought up him being a 'lawyer' twice as much as he has sooo... Also an Ancient level dragon has 3[B]-[/B]6 attacks, one bite at 35 average and two claws at 17, then up to 3 tail hits at 19 each. That's 120+ average damage per turn, not to mention the flame breath turn which is well over 150, you need to roll a 22 to pass that dex save. Easily enough to drop your 450 health in [B]3-4 turns[/B]. Much less if he manages to crit. They also have 10-15' reach so you won't be stopping him from hitting you. I think the op has gotten what he wants from this thread. I'm happy to discuss the finer points of pole-fighting with you if you'd like. I just ask that you give me the respect that I am affording you in this situation. / p.s. I really can't tell, was that supposed to be an insult on my name? It's just a name I cobbled together 12 years ago and have been using since, not sure the joke there... [/QUOTE]
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