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<blockquote data-quote="peterka99" data-source="post: 6490735" data-attributes="member: 6787234">Once upon a time, d&amp;d players got dwellings with followers at&nbsp; high level. They could brew potions, craft magic items, etc; With&nbsp; d&amp;d 3.x, the latter became feats. I is not 5e wise, but how can we&nbsp; emulate it in the current edition ?&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; A castle, a mage tower, etc. potions, staves, armors, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; The issue is with players investing a lot of time, money and other&nbsp; resources&nbsp; in items with a limited usefulness to adventurers because the&nbsp; story arc is set... elsewhere. At high levels, it is more likely a DM&nbsp; set sessions in PC castles,mage towers, temples and players set traps,&nbsp; cast protection spells,etc to protect them. Npc have lair actions; there&nbsp; is no rules for PC lair actions...&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; A few peers posted&nbsp; classes with dwellings features and potion&nbsp; brewing as class features. I mentionned it is npc stuff, but it may be&nbsp; cool for a PC. The issue is that such features are quite dependant on DM&nbsp; will... I don't think we can say: at 13th level, you get; at 5th level&nbsp; you get; it shoud not take the place of combat, proficiencies or utility&nbsp; features. But low magic items availability trigger players need to&nbsp; craft item themselve, without being rich by doing it- they are&nbsp; adventurers, not crafters.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; - I think craft such just be a profession to cover cost of living&nbsp; - I think it may be cool to get dwelings and design them as &quot;dungeons&quot;...&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Epic boon ? They are designed for 20th level characters...DMG&nbsp; introduced plot points, etc, but I don`t like this option- I think the&nbsp; DM should be able to have final word on it, and plot points look like an&nbsp; obligation.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Any thoughs ?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="peterka99, post: 6490735, member: 6787234"] Once upon a time, d&d players got dwellings with followers at high level. They could brew potions, craft magic items, etc; With d&d 3.x, the latter became feats. I is not 5e wise, but how can we emulate it in the current edition ? A castle, a mage tower, etc. potions, staves, armors, etc. The issue is with players investing a lot of time, money and other resources in items with a limited usefulness to adventurers because the story arc is set... elsewhere. At high levels, it is more likely a DM set sessions in PC castles,mage towers, temples and players set traps, cast protection spells,etc to protect them. Npc have lair actions; there is no rules for PC lair actions... A few peers posted classes with dwellings features and potion brewing as class features. I mentionned it is npc stuff, but it may be cool for a PC. The issue is that such features are quite dependant on DM will... I don't think we can say: at 13th level, you get; at 5th level you get; it shoud not take the place of combat, proficiencies or utility features. But low magic items availability trigger players need to craft item themselve, without being rich by doing it- they are adventurers, not crafters. - I think craft such just be a profession to cover cost of living - I think it may be cool to get dwelings and design them as "dungeons"... Epic boon ? They are designed for 20th level characters...DMG introduced plot points, etc, but I don`t like this option- I think the DM should be able to have final word on it, and plot points look like an obligation. Any thoughs ? [/QUOTE]

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