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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 6490786" data-attributes="member: 6779310">I think the divorce was to allow for elimination of the AD&Dism of every local baron being 9th level or higher. (It's not how the rules read, but it was a mildly unreasonable extrapolation from every 9th level fighter gets to form a barony...)There is little reason why building a stronghold with a strong reputation shouldn't attract some flunkies willing to work for the standard rates... It is the free psychotically loyal room & board followers I'm happy to see no longer accrue automatically. Hell, of the dozen or so games I've had rise to name level & up over the last (goodness, is it really? 2015-1981=) 24 years, only two have actually had PCs settle down and build settlements. And in neither case was it really their idea. Most of my players see it as a punishment in D&D/AD&D...(Now, in Pendragon, my last party wanted to get out of the landholding business... the prior ones loved it.)</blockquote>