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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mynex" data-source="post: 1301037" data-attributes="member: 2136">First off, you're mixing a few things that don't relate.1) PCGen data files at the time (of WotC's materials) were under Fair Use from PCGen's perspective (as well as our lawyers).  WotC disagreed, and instead of fighting it out in court (as noted many times, fighting WotC on anything is monumentally expensive), and due to some other considerations, PCGen decided to go OGL AND d20 license legitimate.2) At the time, no one was making data sets for sale under any license agreement.  I could be wrong at that, I don't recall for sure, but I don't think you (DM Familiar) or Twin Rose (CS) had started doing that yet... But I do know that NO ONE had a license with WotC for their material - hell, eTools had _just_ been released at GenCon and ONLY covered the core 3 books at the time and that was a WotC product.3) CMP came well after PCGen went OGL/D20... 7 months or thereabouts... The 2 are only related in the aspect of three of us that worked on PCGen own CMP and the fact that both produce data sets for PCGen (CMP Licensed, PCGen OGL)So Todd, instead of trying to rehash old issues, and incorrectly at that, how about you go through all the effort that we did as CMP to secure a license with WotC, how about you go through the man hours of work to create the data sets from scratch, the coding that was needed, and then have people spread those files across Kazaa/personal web space/etc and then come tell me that's not theft.You get those files illegaly and don't pay for the hard work that went into creating those data files and if you distribute said material on peer to peer, personal web space, etc,, you're stealing from the people that did do that hard work as well as from WotC.  Pure and simple.Slice it any way you want to, unless you have the money and you're willing to go to court and justify/convince a judge that it's not stealing, then there is no debate.  I'd recommend to anyone that doesn't agree with this point of view to get yourself a software lawyer and ask them... Most of them will give you a free consultation as well, or at least answer your question over the phone.</blockquote>

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