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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vpenman" data-source="post: 1333195" data-attributes="member: 6794">Of course what I actually said was  "You have stolen a person's labor, ideas, and creativity."Let's say you have a job. Pretty much each weekday you work at that job. You do that not because you would rather be working than doing anything else you could do.  You do that because you need to work to earn an honest living.Now let's say your employer is, well let's call him a "pirate" (so as not to offend anyone). This "pirate" had no intention of paying you for your work.  Rather, he intends to enjoy the fruits of your labor without paying you for them.Payday comes around, you get a paycheck, but it bounces. You try to collect from your "pirate" employer, but he is no where to be found.Was this illegal?  Certainly, as the "pirate" never intended to pay you, that is fraud and illegal.Was it immoral? Not according to "JRRNeiklot".  Apparently, since what was taken from you was not something a person can hold in his hands (the bank did return that bounced check to you), this isn't theft.  It's not even wrong.Victor</blockquote>