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[E6 Class] Dervish
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<blockquote data-quote="Asurya" data-source="post: 4022451" data-attributes="member: 59648"><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Gray">quote <strong>Kunimatyu</strong>:</span> in this case, I really like the strategy of the Rending Finish, because you can get bonus damage (and you don't have to declare the Finish until you hit with both, so it's a sure thing), but at the cost of your Dervish Dance for the rest of the encounter. That sort of tactical consideration really makes it interesting, in my eyes.</span></p><p>my point exactly <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Gray">quote <strong>Kunimatyu</strong>:</span> The catch is that a player who's used all of his Dervish Dance full-attacks for the day has no reason not to Rending Finish when he can</span></p><p>yes, although it's metagame, I bet that's what will happen.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Gray">quote <strong>Kunimatyu</strong>:</span> so if I was to rewrite the class, I would probably change things around so that the Dervish doesn't really have TWF-per se, just an at-will Dervish Dance ability that lets him get two hits in at full BAB while he's moving.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Is there any interest in a rewrite?</span></p><p>oh yes! this could be a very interesting concept: your class focus makes you powerful so when you loose your rythm, you loose a lot.</p><p>I would list several condition that kicks you out of your "trance" (stunned, dazed, bullrushed), and you have to take a full-rd action to get back in (with the proper Perform[dance] check, a king of psionic focus if you like) and make the finishing move kick you out of it in such a way that you cannot "refresh" it before next encounter (the one meinute meditation idea is great for that I think)</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Gray">quote <strong>comrade raoul</strong>:</span> After you dance, you're fatigued for a number of rounds equal to the length of the dance. (Pick when you dance carefully!)</span></p><p>I think this is a good idea for a balancing factor,</p><p>but I would let the Cha to AC out of the class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Asurya, post: 4022451, member: 59648"] [SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]quote [b]Kunimatyu[/b]:[/COLOR] in this case, I really like the strategy of the Rending Finish, because you can get bonus damage (and you don't have to declare the Finish until you hit with both, so it's a sure thing), but at the cost of your Dervish Dance for the rest of the encounter. That sort of tactical consideration really makes it interesting, in my eyes.[/SIZE] my point exactly :D [SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]quote [b]Kunimatyu[/b]:[/COLOR] The catch is that a player who's used all of his Dervish Dance full-attacks for the day has no reason not to Rending Finish when he can[/SIZE] yes, although it's metagame, I bet that's what will happen. [SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]quote [b]Kunimatyu[/b]:[/COLOR] so if I was to rewrite the class, I would probably change things around so that the Dervish doesn't really have TWF-per se, just an at-will Dervish Dance ability that lets him get two hits in at full BAB while he's moving. Is there any interest in a rewrite?[/SIZE] oh yes! this could be a very interesting concept: your class focus makes you powerful so when you loose your rythm, you loose a lot. I would list several condition that kicks you out of your "trance" (stunned, dazed, bullrushed), and you have to take a full-rd action to get back in (with the proper Perform[dance] check, a king of psionic focus if you like) and make the finishing move kick you out of it in such a way that you cannot "refresh" it before next encounter (the one meinute meditation idea is great for that I think) [SIZE=1][COLOR=Gray]quote [b]comrade raoul[/b]:[/COLOR] After you dance, you're fatigued for a number of rounds equal to the length of the dance. (Pick when you dance carefully!)[/SIZE] I think this is a good idea for a balancing factor, but I would let the Cha to AC out of the class. [/QUOTE]
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