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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4163222" data-attributes="member: 43283">It hasn't come up in my game, but I figured if it did I'd actually use the system from Mystic Eye Games book: The Artificer's Handbook.You can read a review here:<a href="http://www.d20zines.com/v7/node/657" target="_blank">http://www.d20zines.com/v7/node/657</a><a href="http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?do=review&reviewid=2010781" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?do=review&reviewid=2010781</a><a href="http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?do=review&reviewid=2010760" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/reviews.php?do=review&reviewid=2010760</a>There's a sort of an idea what you can expect from it here:<a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=35741" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=35741</a>I picked up the pdf version of it, but it doesn't look like it's hard to find in print still.I will note that it's a bit of a fiddly thing. You're not really going to sit down and whip out the item in a couple of minutes. I've got no idea how that compares to the default system, since I've never played a wizard/sorcerer in D&D (and don't ever plan to).I have a love/hate thing with rules. I like some consistency to them and like a decent foundation, but I really dislike having to _deal_ with them in actual play. So something like Unusual Core Classes: Spellweaver and The Artificer's Handbook appeal to me because they present a way to handle something consistently and bring in things from other sources and still have everything on a relatively level playing field.At one time I really liked Elements of Magic. However, EoM falls down because it takes too much up front work to get the whole magic system of D&D converted over, there's too many variations possible within the magic, and some spells are difficult to recreate.That's where the hate thing with rules comes in: When I sit down to play, I just want 'em to disappear as much as possible.The Spellweaver class from Misfit Studios offers a lot of the same flexibility that EoM does, in a much tidier rules package, and goes the additional step of actually telling me what the SRD spells are worth using the Spellweaver system.The Artificer's Handbook has a sample of Wonderous Items (50 items A-C but no Belt of Magnificence that I saw) and a number of other appendixes to help make using the system easier.So far, I havent' seen anything come close to the Aritficer's Handbook in terms of what it does. It's not ideal because it does require more fiddling than I tend to want, but I really do like the potential consistency it brings to the table.Of course, in 20 years of playing I've only seen the need for magic item creation rules come up a couple of times. So I don't have much practical experience with that side of things.I'll also note that the downside of using the Artificer's Handbook is that it isn't a core book. This could be a dealbreaker for some.</blockquote>

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