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<blockquote data-quote="Theo R Cwithin" data-source="post: 5454366" data-attributes="member: 75712">file: Magic Items VI&nbsp;status: awaiting comment&nbsp;comment:Finally at a point where I can comment on the Artifacts, Cursed and Intelligent Items.Basically, first I pondered how I'd do it, then went over ideasmith's version, and saw the variants were quite different.&nbsp; So point-by-point:Intelligent items:All I did here was rip out anything referring to spells/effects not explicitly E6ish.&nbsp; Other than that, it's fairly close to ideasmith's version.&nbsp; I've never used RAW intelligent magic items, so I don't really have other opinions on the matter.Cursed Items:These are peculiar because practically all the ones in the full SRD are beyond E6 in power (ie, they're mostly epic items).&nbsp; I understand that ideasmith ran into this problem, too, having removed all non-E6 items, then putting most of them back in after seeing there were only two left.I ended up compromising, more or less just cutting the list off above CL11, witha few exceptions.&nbsp; Why CL11?&nbsp; That's the dividing line between RAW detect magic's &quot;moderate&quot; and &quot;strong&quot; auras-- a fact I ended up using later on in differentiating artifacts.&nbsp; So the cursed items list has a couple items that detect as &quot;normal&quot; level magic; several that detect as &quot;moderate&quot; (=epic level); and a couple that detect as &quot;strong&quot; (=super-duper epic level). Artifacts:Very difficult. The assumption beyond artifacts in normal D&amp;D seems...[casts dispel on unsightly wall of text]Here's the tl;dr version: &quot;I've basically reinterpreted minor artifacts as uncreatable items of power levels equal to or beyond epic E6 PCs (ie, CL6-11); and major artifacts as items beyond even the power levels of epic E6 monsters (ie, CL12+).&nbsp; This was driven mostly by how auras work by RAW using detect magic, and conveniently maps into how we had already decided to cut monsters from the SRD.&quot;End result is that my rework looks very different than ideasmith's, not least because I included more artifacts; because (I think) I've assumed a much less important role for minor artifacts; and just because of personal taste, obviously.&nbsp; Also, I didn't rename items ported over from the normal magic items list into the artifacts list, and made (almost) no mechanical changes to those items; just made a few editorial mods to emphasize the items' &quot;artifactiness&quot;.Anyway, it's not a critical part of the game, imho, but I'm looking for a little discussion on this before moving on to the next phase of the project!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Theo R Cwithin, post: 5454366, member: 75712"] file: [B]Magic Items VI[/B] status: [COLOR=Cyan]awaiting comment[/COLOR] comment: Finally at a point where I can comment on the Artifacts, Cursed and Intelligent Items. Basically, first I pondered how I'd do it, then went over ideasmith's version, and saw the variants were quite different. So point-by-point: Intelligent items: All I did here was rip out anything referring to spells/effects not explicitly E6ish. Other than that, it's fairly close to ideasmith's version. I've never used RAW intelligent magic items, so I don't really have other opinions on the matter. Cursed Items: These are peculiar because practically all the ones in the full SRD are beyond E6 in power (ie, they're mostly epic items). I understand that ideasmith ran into this problem, too, having removed all non-E6 items, then putting most of them back in after seeing there were only two left. I ended up compromising, more or less just cutting the list off above CL11, witha few exceptions. Why CL11? That's the dividing line between RAW detect magic's "moderate" and "strong" auras-- a fact I ended up using later on in differentiating artifacts. So the cursed items list has a couple items that detect as "normal" level magic; several that detect as "moderate" (=epic level); and a couple that detect as "strong" (=super-duper epic level). Artifacts: Very difficult. The assumption beyond artifacts in normal D&D seems...[[COLOR=LemonChiffon]casts [I]dispel[/I] on unsightly [I]wall of text[/I][/COLOR]] Here's the tl;dr version: "I've basically reinterpreted minor artifacts as uncreatable items of power levels equal to or beyond epic E6 PCs (ie, CL6-11); and major artifacts as items beyond even the power levels of epic E6 monsters (ie, CL12+). This was driven mostly by how auras work by RAW using [I]detect magic[/I], and conveniently maps into how we had already decided to cut monsters from the SRD." End result is that my rework looks very different than ideasmith's, not least because I included more artifacts; because (I think) I've assumed a much less important role for minor artifacts; and just because of personal taste, obviously. Also, I didn't rename items ported over from the normal magic items list into the artifacts list, and made (almost) no mechanical changes to those items; just made a few editorial mods to emphasize the items' "artifactiness". Anyway, it's not a critical part of the game, imho, but I'm looking for a little discussion on this before moving on to the next phase of the project! [/QUOTE]

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