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Message: <blockquote data-quote="VanceMadrox" data-source="post: 5321731" data-attributes="member: 95151">It's not just domains, that was one of the bigger reasons though. The domain powers are balanced for 8th level. Giving them at 6 doesn't seem right. And requiring they use feats for them after 6th still would encourage people to simply take other domains I think. There's also abilities several other classes. There's also huge animal wild shape for druids, improved uncanny dodge for rogues, damage reduction for barbarians and lots of other thing I would want to include from 7-8.  Beyond that though I've looked magic items and there's a LOT of caster level 9-10 items that I would want in a world. Bags of holding, flaming swords, carpets of flying, crystal balls. These are all faorly staple fantasy items. I could take the "created by gods" approach but personally I like the idea that mortal hands could potentially make this item, albeit it'd have to be a very high level caster. There's several 9-10th level abilties for classes to that I would want as capstones/epic feats. While I could go for E6 leaning up toward 9-10, I think E8 might work better. The only real disadvantage I see to E8 is a few of the 4th level spells. On the whole most of them are fine. I don't have a problem ith Dimension Door. EPIC Wizards should be able to teleport away imo. And it doesn't present the same scry & die problems Teleport does. I'm ok with scrying too. Solid fog is nerfed in pathfinder. Ditto with Divine Power. Black Tentacles and Reincarnate might have to be left out. Overall though there aren't a lot of offenders. Doing it with E8 leaning up would also allow me to have spellcasters who are able to cast a 5th level spell once or twice a day. This allows such things as the Witch who can turn you into a frog. Or the enchanter who can control your mind. Personally this is something I like.  There are several other little things too.The leadership feats requires level 7.Lesser geas works on 7th level and lower. This means that EPIC characters would be immune and I like the diea of some people being so powerful that the spell doesn't function on them. Really other than a few spells I don't see why E6 is much better than E8.</blockquote>

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