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<blockquote data-quote="fireinthedust" data-source="post: 5321784" data-attributes="member: 51930">Magic items:&nbsp; there are lots of solutions.&nbsp; You could have ancient cultures where this stuff was possible.&nbsp; You could have some epic monsters, who have high caster levels, make this stuff.&nbsp; A Rakshasa offering bags of holding to its minions is a temptation for PCs.&nbsp; Locations and artefacts also come to mind to allow this stuff.&nbsp; And, as always, they can find them in the horde of a Dragon, or a vault of dwarven gold.There isn't an issue with E8 that I can think of, except that you're that much higher level.&nbsp; Monsters like Orcs are no longer a challenge, and you need something else to step in as the common minion.&nbsp; Orcs with class levels, for example, works but is more work for you.&nbsp; Look less at player abilities and more at the creatures around them.&nbsp; Look at the skill bonuses for how far they can, for example, jump (tall buildings in a single bound?).&nbsp; As long as the math works, that's great.&nbsp; And if it works for your group, so much the better.&nbsp; It's just that you'll be using a higher tier of monster a lot sooner.&nbsp; Those BBEGs will have access to some of the &quot;goofiness&quot; of the higher tiers, especially as you get to e8+20.&nbsp; So it's less what they can do, and more the world around them that I'd point out.I'd still play a game like that, tho.&nbsp; Could be fun, and PCs get a level or two of a PrC if they want.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fireinthedust, post: 5321784, member: 51930"] Magic items: there are lots of solutions. You could have ancient cultures where this stuff was possible. You could have some epic monsters, who have high caster levels, make this stuff. A Rakshasa offering bags of holding to its minions is a temptation for PCs. Locations and artefacts also come to mind to allow this stuff. And, as always, they can find them in the horde of a Dragon, or a vault of dwarven gold. There isn't an issue with E8 that I can think of, except that you're that much higher level. Monsters like Orcs are no longer a challenge, and you need something else to step in as the common minion. Orcs with class levels, for example, works but is more work for you. Look less at player abilities and more at the creatures around them. Look at the skill bonuses for how far they can, for example, jump (tall buildings in a single bound?). As long as the math works, that's great. And if it works for your group, so much the better. It's just that you'll be using a higher tier of monster a lot sooner. Those BBEGs will have access to some of the "goofiness" of the higher tiers, especially as you get to e8+20. So it's less what they can do, and more the world around them that I'd point out. I'd still play a game like that, tho. Could be fun, and PCs get a level or two of a PrC if they want. [/QUOTE]

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