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<blockquote data-quote="Siuis" data-source="post: 5391275" data-attributes="member: 51622">There are several ways around these issues. Arcane archer itself won't work as printed (it's BaB requirement is one point too high) but other PrCs? It is possible to &quot;dope&quot; prerequisites. A quick survey of the SRD PrCs shows that it's nigh impossible to abuse though.Say we have a rogue 5 assassin 1. All of the assassin requirements are also assassin class skills. Total rebuilding a la PHB2, he can go on a quest, survive by the skin of his teeth (single-handedly beat three CR 9 encounters- ouch) and emerge as an assassin 6. He has the hitdice and skill ranks to qualify for the class, from the class. I was thinking of doing this with an ur-priest (and tricking the party into helping with the quest/ritual to accomplish it) and have a villain mad on power with crazy, super-potent 6th level spells.You can also get a caster level of at least 15 and maybe 18, using the ironsoul forgemaster from magic of incarnum. They have a CL of class level*3 for arms and armor creation, but no spells. Between this and the huge amount of time a max-6th smith needs to make a truly masterwork item, dwarven- and elven-craftsmanship can be the best in the world without DM fiat, so I'd forgive it personally.I am so glad I've stumbled upon this (via the GiTP forums; figure I owe them a shout-out for this awesome find). This is far and away better than what I was going to do. I'm planning on starting an E6 game in the next two weeks; I fully expect awesome of a caliber I've not seen since I played &quot;whatever my DM said-point-oh&quot; edition when I was ten. Thank you!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Siuis, post: 5391275, member: 51622"] There are several ways around these issues. Arcane archer itself won't work as printed (it's BaB requirement is one point too high) but other PrCs? It is possible to "dope" prerequisites. A quick survey of the SRD PrCs shows that it's nigh impossible to abuse though. Say we have a rogue 5 assassin 1. All of the assassin requirements are also assassin class skills. Total rebuilding a la PHB2, he can go on a quest, survive by the skin of his teeth (single-handedly beat three CR 9 encounters- ouch) and emerge as an assassin 6. He has the hitdice and skill ranks to qualify for the class, from the class. I was thinking of doing this with an ur-priest (and tricking the party into helping with the quest/ritual to accomplish it) and have a villain mad on power with crazy, super-potent 6th level spells. You can also get a caster level of at least 15 and maybe 18, using the ironsoul forgemaster from magic of incarnum. They have a CL of class level*3 for arms and armor creation, but no spells. Between this and the huge amount of time a max-6th smith needs to make a truly masterwork item, dwarven- and elven-craftsmanship can be the best in the world without DM fiat, so I'd forgive it personally. I am so glad I've stumbled upon this (via the GiTP forums; figure I owe them a shout-out for this awesome find). This is far and away better than what I was going to do. I'm planning on starting an E6 game in the next two weeks; I fully expect awesome of a caliber I've not seen since I played "whatever my DM said-point-oh" edition when I was ten. Thank you! [/QUOTE]

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