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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchrave II" data-source="post: 4878376" data-attributes="member: 4303"><p>More random thoughts on divine ranks.</p><p></p><p>I was reading an old post by fusangite about what he calls 'metatext' and it got me thinking about one of the hidden patterns in the campaign: namely, that the overarching cosmologies presented by five different perspectives – Oronthonist, Uediian, Pseudonatural, Oneiric and Cheshnite – can be reconciled in terms of the numerology of divine ranks. When I started detailing deities, I didn't intend this; it kind of just happened: in many ways, I've actively avoided looking for any kind of meta-reality which holds various others. But…</p><p></p><p>Because DvRs have a 'real' meaning within the campaign world – e.g. Gihaahia is recognized as "three times thrice magnified" by Choach – it stands to reason that some enterprising Irrenite familiar with Mostin's ideas would have devised a scheme to describe this. It is couched primarily in numerological terms, and a variety of mystical 'routes' exist within it, as do a number of distinct mystical 'goals:' paths may be ascending, descending; linear or cyclical. Ascending them generally corresponds with <em>apotheosis</em>; descending has connotations of <em>emanation</em>. </p><p></p><p>None of the following is True.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>DvR1:</strong> <em>Divinity</em>. The Union of Infinities. Divinity is paradigm-neutral.</p><p><strong>DvR2:</strong> <em>Bifurcation and division</em>. Oronthon self-emanates. The first impulse of the Adversary. The beginning of the process of dissolution. The multiplication of life begins. DvR2 is also paradigm-neutral.</p><p><strong>DvR3:</strong> <em>Harmony</em>. Accordance with the Divine Will. Associated with Oronthon's scheme ("thrice magnified"). </p><p><strong>DvR4:</strong> <em>Disruption and revolution</em>. (2 x 2) Powerful <em>Bhitis</em>. Explosive and fragmenting energy. Dynamic force applied to reality. </p><p><strong>DvR5:</strong> <em>Manifestation in the world</em>. Great nature spirits: scions of specific tree-ludjas; powerful mountain-ludjas, river or lake-ludjas. </p><p><strong>DvR6:</strong> <em>Reconciliation</em>. (3 x 2) Nehael. Sophist notions of God(dess) in Nature.</p><p><strong>DvR7:</strong> <em>Divine Mysteries</em>. Oronthon's Regents. (The number of Sovereignties. Seven times seven Regents each with 7DvR. Also, 7 x 7 x 7 = number of seraphim in the highest choir.)</p><p><strong>DvR8:</strong> <em>Destruction</em>. (2 x 2 x 2) Great <em>Bhitis</em>. Phenomena associated with Cheshne.</p><p><strong>DvR9:</strong> <em>Perfection</em>. (3 x 3) Associated with Oronthon's Magnification scheme ("three times thrice"); also the Claviger is capable of bestowing this status.</p><p><strong>DvR10:</strong> <em>Fecundity</em> (5 x 2) Specific tree-ludjas (Oak, Yew etc.)</p><p><strong>DvR11:</strong> <em>Imagination</em>. The Claviger</p><p><strong>DvR12:</strong> <em>Reification</em> (3 x 2 x 2) Eternal elemental forces. Elder elemental deities.</p><p><strong>DvR13:</strong> <em>Occultation</em>. That which is hidden or impenetrable. Those who guard the Veils of Cheshne.</p><p><strong>DvR14:</strong> <em>Revelation</em> (7 x 2) ? </p><p><strong>DvR15:</strong> <em>Sovereignty</em>. (5 x 3) Sovereignties. Harmony x manifestation. Oronthon acts in perfect accordance with his own will. Esoterically, the Adversary is variously considered a 13+2, an 11+4 or a 9+6; he is the only entity described primarily as an additive function.</p><p><strong>DvR16:</strong> <em>Dissolution</em>. (2 x 2 x 2 x 2) Apparitions of Demogorgon. The preconscious destructive urge.</p><p><strong>DvR17:</strong> <em>Impossibility</em>. Pseudodeities.</p><p><strong>DvR18:</strong> <em>Resolution</em> (3 x 3 x 2). The realization of the dialectic.</p><p><strong>DvR19:</strong> <em>Premanifestation</em>. The apprehension of the Urge Primeval within Finitude</p><p><strong>DvR20:</strong> <em>Genesis</em>. (5 x 2 x 2) Tree, Aeon. But the order of operators is different: Tree is (5 x 2) x 2, and partakes of the nature of 10 (fecundity); Aeon is (2 x 2) x 5, and partakes of the nature of 4 (disruption).</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Speculative DvRs of Meta-Transcendentals</strong></p><p>Derived from the "inverse avatar" notion.</p><p></p><p><strong>22</strong> Dream – Magical node. The Claviger's emanatory point.</p><p><strong>24</strong> Uedii (Mother of the Elements). The emanatory point of fundamental elemental forces.</p><p><strong>25</strong> Viridity (5 x 5). Hyperfecundity.</p><p><strong>26</strong> Cheshne (Beyond the Veils). Emanatory point of the Mistresses of the Veils. Note that she sleeps <em>with the others</em>.</p><p><strong>27</strong> <em>Sela</em> (3 x 3 x 3).</p><p><strong>30</strong> Oronthon (Radiant Form). Emanatory point of the Sovereignties.</p><p><strong>32</strong> Cheshne (Awakened). Emanatory point of the Apparition.</p><p><strong>32</strong> Demogorgon. Emanatory point of the Apparition.</p><p><strong>34</strong> Any specific Pseudoinfinity</p><p><strong>36</strong> <em>Saizhan</em>. Transcendence of the dialectic.</p><p><strong>40</strong> Hahio (Interwoven Green). Emanatory point of Tree. </p><p><strong>40</strong> Oronthon (Consciousness Form). The emanatory point of the Aeons.</p><p><strong>44</strong> Primordial Dream</p><p><strong>49</strong> Oronthon (7 x 7). Unknowable.</p><p><strong>64</strong> Tamasah. Emanatory point of the Demogorgon/Cheshne duality.</p><p><strong>80</strong> (Unmanifest).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchrave II, post: 4878376, member: 4303"] More random thoughts on divine ranks. I was reading an old post by fusangite about what he calls 'metatext' and it got me thinking about one of the hidden patterns in the campaign: namely, that the overarching cosmologies presented by five different perspectives – Oronthonist, Uediian, Pseudonatural, Oneiric and Cheshnite – can be reconciled in terms of the numerology of divine ranks. When I started detailing deities, I didn't intend this; it kind of just happened: in many ways, I've actively avoided looking for any kind of meta-reality which holds various others. But… Because DvRs have a 'real' meaning within the campaign world – e.g. Gihaahia is recognized as "three times thrice magnified" by Choach – it stands to reason that some enterprising Irrenite familiar with Mostin's ideas would have devised a scheme to describe this. It is couched primarily in numerological terms, and a variety of mystical 'routes' exist within it, as do a number of distinct mystical 'goals:' paths may be ascending, descending; linear or cyclical. Ascending them generally corresponds with [I]apotheosis[/I]; descending has connotations of [I]emanation[/I]. None of the following is True. [B]DvR1:[/B] [I]Divinity[/I]. The Union of Infinities. Divinity is paradigm-neutral. [B]DvR2:[/B] [I]Bifurcation and division[/I]. Oronthon self-emanates. The first impulse of the Adversary. The beginning of the process of dissolution. The multiplication of life begins. DvR2 is also paradigm-neutral. [B]DvR3:[/B] [I]Harmony[/I]. Accordance with the Divine Will. Associated with Oronthon's scheme ("thrice magnified"). [B]DvR4:[/B] [I]Disruption and revolution[/I]. (2 x 2) Powerful [I]Bhitis[/I]. Explosive and fragmenting energy. Dynamic force applied to reality. [B]DvR5:[/B] [I]Manifestation in the world[/I]. Great nature spirits: scions of specific tree-ludjas; powerful mountain-ludjas, river or lake-ludjas. [B]DvR6:[/B] [I]Reconciliation[/I]. (3 x 2) Nehael. Sophist notions of God(dess) in Nature. [B]DvR7:[/B] [I]Divine Mysteries[/I]. Oronthon's Regents. (The number of Sovereignties. Seven times seven Regents each with 7DvR. Also, 7 x 7 x 7 = number of seraphim in the highest choir.) [B]DvR8:[/B] [I]Destruction[/I]. (2 x 2 x 2) Great [I]Bhitis[/I]. Phenomena associated with Cheshne. [B]DvR9:[/B] [I]Perfection[/I]. (3 x 3) Associated with Oronthon's Magnification scheme ("three times thrice"); also the Claviger is capable of bestowing this status. [B]DvR10:[/B] [I]Fecundity[/I] (5 x 2) Specific tree-ludjas (Oak, Yew etc.) [B]DvR11:[/B] [I]Imagination[/I]. The Claviger [B]DvR12:[/B] [I]Reification[/I] (3 x 2 x 2) Eternal elemental forces. Elder elemental deities. [B]DvR13:[/B] [I]Occultation[/I]. That which is hidden or impenetrable. Those who guard the Veils of Cheshne. [B]DvR14:[/B] [I]Revelation[/I] (7 x 2) ? [B]DvR15:[/B] [I]Sovereignty[/I]. (5 x 3) Sovereignties. Harmony x manifestation. Oronthon acts in perfect accordance with his own will. Esoterically, the Adversary is variously considered a 13+2, an 11+4 or a 9+6; he is the only entity described primarily as an additive function. [B]DvR16:[/B] [I]Dissolution[/I]. (2 x 2 x 2 x 2) Apparitions of Demogorgon. The preconscious destructive urge. [B]DvR17:[/B] [I]Impossibility[/I]. Pseudodeities. [B]DvR18:[/B] [I]Resolution[/I] (3 x 3 x 2). The realization of the dialectic. [B]DvR19:[/B] [I]Premanifestation[/I]. The apprehension of the Urge Primeval within Finitude [B]DvR20:[/B] [I]Genesis[/I]. (5 x 2 x 2) Tree, Aeon. But the order of operators is different: Tree is (5 x 2) x 2, and partakes of the nature of 10 (fecundity); Aeon is (2 x 2) x 5, and partakes of the nature of 4 (disruption). [B]Speculative DvRs of Meta-Transcendentals[/B] Derived from the "inverse avatar" notion. [B]22[/B] Dream – Magical node. The Claviger's emanatory point. [B]24[/B] Uedii (Mother of the Elements). The emanatory point of fundamental elemental forces. [B]25[/B] Viridity (5 x 5). Hyperfecundity. [B]26[/B] Cheshne (Beyond the Veils). Emanatory point of the Mistresses of the Veils. Note that she sleeps [I]with the others[/I]. [B]27[/B] [I]Sela[/I] (3 x 3 x 3). [B]30[/B] Oronthon (Radiant Form). Emanatory point of the Sovereignties. [B]32[/B] Cheshne (Awakened). Emanatory point of the Apparition. [B]32[/B] Demogorgon. Emanatory point of the Apparition. [B]34[/B] Any specific Pseudoinfinity [B]36[/B] [I]Saizhan[/I]. Transcendence of the dialectic. [B]40[/B] Hahio (Interwoven Green). Emanatory point of Tree. [B]40[/B] Oronthon (Consciousness Form). The emanatory point of the Aeons. [B]44[/B] Primordial Dream [B]49[/B] Oronthon (7 x 7). Unknowable. [B]64[/B] Tamasah. Emanatory point of the Demogorgon/Cheshne duality. [B]80[/B] (Unmanifest). [/QUOTE]
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