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<blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2694163" data-attributes="member: 35863">The original Monk makes his way towards the status of &quot;outsider&quot; - yours ends as an Earth Ele (glad you liked that one).&nbsp; Why are you removing Diamond?&nbsp; Immunity to poison seems reasonable here.&nbsp; Everything I know I learned from Pokemon, and I know I can't poison a rock.&nbsp; Just seems like an odd choice to me.Ki Strike: I would suggest replacing 'magic' with at first their counter element at least; i.e., counts as a magic weapon for overcoming defenses of Air/Wind based creatures.&nbsp; Or, you could give them Smite Air, which would almost seem to fit this concept without going overboard.&nbsp; Later, they might learn how to deal with the defenses of Fire &amp; Water creatures as well.Leap Tackle: This almost seems bizarre, but I can see where one would train to pull someone out of the sky if that was their big complaint.&nbsp; &quot;No flying!&nbsp; You, get down!&quot;&nbsp; If a Monk takes Improved Trip, and thus does not provoke an Attack of Opportunity, this may be a little over-powered.&nbsp; Does a Leap Tackle provoke an AoO?&nbsp; Because it sounds like it should.More coffee.Stone Skin you probably want to work in a slightly weaker version of.&nbsp; I'm checking the SRD for other spell-like body buffs.&nbsp; However, since Stoneskin is 10/Adamantine, the odds of them being hit by anything other than another Monk are pretty slim.&nbsp; You may simply want to give them low-grade DR, although channeling to produce an effect of that magnitude would also fit.&nbsp; I like Kisanji's 1/3 days version, although I'm usually an X/day person myself.Removing Diamond Soul (SR +10) and replacing with Grounded Soul (Elec. Immunity/Wind Res + 10) makes sense to me, as we also know from Pokemon that Earth grounds Electric attacks.&nbsp; This may even improve later (see my notes on Barbarian).&nbsp; However, I don't know if you want to simply give them immunity straight up.&nbsp; Mind you, in the &quot;the world is cognizant&quot; argument, it's possible Wind types have learned not to try frying the Earth Monks.&nbsp; That's a separate question, though.Fast Movement: Oddly, I disagree with this.&nbsp; Whereas I see Fire as being blazingly fast and capable of consuming just about everything in its wake, Earth is considered slow.&nbsp; It moves when it's good and ready.&nbsp; I agree with your inclusion of the Dwarf steadying attributes, and that's a theme I would build on in direct exchange.&nbsp; Also, there may be something in the Psionics handbook making it nearly impossible to remove someone from the ground they've attached too.&nbsp; I would flip those directly.&nbsp; Instead of making them fast, make them immovable.&nbsp; Having now checked the Psionics handbook, I can't find it, if I do, I shall make with the posting.&nbsp; But, immovable.&nbsp; Wouldn't happen until later, but it makes sense.I endorse Kisanji's flip from &quot;Death Touch&quot; to &quot;Stone Touch.&quot;&nbsp; I specifically endorse becuase I thought of it, but didn't post last night while I was running my campaign.&nbsp; I wouldn't personally change the mechanics, but that's a whole separate discussion.Anything that doesn't make sense attribute to my lack of having consumed a pot of coffee.Good morning!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thia Halmades, post: 2694163, member: 35863"] The original Monk makes his way towards the status of "outsider" - yours ends as an Earth Ele (glad you liked that one). Why are you removing Diamond? Immunity to poison seems reasonable here. Everything I know I learned from Pokemon, and I know I can't poison a rock. Just seems like an odd choice to me. Ki Strike: I would suggest replacing 'magic' with at first their counter element at least; i.e., counts as a magic weapon for overcoming defenses of Air/Wind based creatures. Or, you could give them Smite Air, which would almost seem to fit this concept without going overboard. Later, they might learn how to deal with the defenses of Fire & Water creatures as well. Leap Tackle: This almost seems bizarre, but I can see where one would train to pull someone out of the sky if that was their big complaint. "No flying! You, get down!" If a Monk takes Improved Trip, and thus does not provoke an Attack of Opportunity, this may be a little over-powered. Does a Leap Tackle provoke an AoO? Because it sounds like it should. More coffee. Stone Skin you probably want to work in a slightly weaker version of. I'm checking the SRD for other spell-like body buffs. However, since Stoneskin is 10/Adamantine, the odds of them being hit by anything other than another Monk are pretty slim. You may simply want to give them low-grade DR, although channeling to produce an effect of that magnitude would also fit. I like Kisanji's 1/3 days version, although I'm usually an X/day person myself. Removing Diamond Soul (SR +10) and replacing with Grounded Soul (Elec. Immunity/Wind Res + 10) makes sense to me, as we also know from Pokemon that Earth grounds Electric attacks. This may even improve later (see my notes on Barbarian). However, I don't know if you want to simply give them immunity straight up. Mind you, in the "the world is cognizant" argument, it's possible Wind types have learned not to try frying the Earth Monks. That's a separate question, though. Fast Movement: Oddly, I disagree with this. Whereas I see Fire as being blazingly fast and capable of consuming just about everything in its wake, Earth is considered slow. It moves when it's good and ready. I agree with your inclusion of the Dwarf steadying attributes, and that's a theme I would build on in direct exchange. Also, there may be something in the Psionics handbook making it nearly impossible to remove someone from the ground they've attached too. I would flip those directly. Instead of making them fast, make them immovable. Having now checked the Psionics handbook, I can't find it, if I do, I shall make with the posting. But, immovable. Wouldn't happen until later, but it makes sense. I endorse Kisanji's flip from "Death Touch" to "Stone Touch." I specifically endorse becuase I thought of it, but didn't post last night while I was running my campaign. I wouldn't personally change the mechanics, but that's a whole separate discussion. Anything that doesn't make sense attribute to my lack of having consumed a pot of coffee. Good morning! [/QUOTE]

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