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<blockquote data-quote="DamionW" data-source="post: 2726517" data-attributes="member: 18649">OK, see the first post for my new, completed revision.&nbsp; I fleshed out the class progression completely.&nbsp; Here's what I decided:1)&nbsp; The bonus feats at first level are either Imp Sunder or Grapple.&nbsp; At 2nd level they're Deflect Arrows or Imp Trip.&nbsp; Depending on what you picked at 1st, you get either Eagle Claw Attack (boosted Sunder ability), or Earth's Embrace (boosted grapple ability), both from CW.2)&nbsp; After looking back and forth at the ranger and monk, it came to me to give the ranger the speed boost and the monk camo related and other movement abilities.&nbsp; So for every 10' of speed the monk would have gotten, I gave them a different ability following this chain:&nbsp; Stability -&gt; Up the Walls -&gt; Stone Hue (Dark Hunter PrC{CW}) -&gt; Camouflage -&gt; Hide in Plain Sight -&gt; Earth Glide (As an elemental)3)&nbsp; Sticking with the slow and deliberate idea, I took away Evasion and Improved Evasion, as well as Still Mind to give them the three tier Earth Mastery feat chain from Races of Stone:&nbsp; Earth Sense -&gt; Earth Adept -&gt; Earth Mastery4)&nbsp; Instead of Purity of Body (disease resistance), I give them Breathless (extended held breath and immunity to gas effects)5)&nbsp; Instead of Diamond Body (poison immunity), I give them the Power Drop special attack, doing full unarmed damage with a trip or overrun attack a limited number of times per day.6)&nbsp; The Wing Cripple special attack (limiting winged creatures ability to fly) replaces Abundant Step (a dimension door effect)7)&nbsp; Grounding Stance (Resistance/10 to electricity and air based damage and a +4 to saves vs other wind effects) replaces Diamond Soul (SR 10)8)&nbsp; Stone Touch petrifies instead of Quivering Palm killing9)&nbsp; Ki Strike progression is changed to Lawful/earth, cold iron, adamantine from magic, lawful, adamantine.10)&nbsp; Earth Press (extended rounds to prone or immobilization from trip/overrun, pin) replaces Tongue of Sun and Moon (speak all languages)11)&nbsp; Leap Tackle (enhanced jump to bring flying enemies down) replaces Empty Body (Etherealness limited times per day)12)&nbsp; Earth Self replaces Perfect Self, making the 20th level monk an elemental, not outsider.There.&nbsp; That's my complete conversion.&nbsp; Let the balance discussion commence.&nbsp; What has too much power, what didn't go far enough?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DamionW, post: 2726517, member: 18649"] OK, see the first post for my new, completed revision. I fleshed out the class progression completely. Here's what I decided: 1) The bonus feats at first level are either Imp Sunder or Grapple. At 2nd level they're Deflect Arrows or Imp Trip. Depending on what you picked at 1st, you get either Eagle Claw Attack (boosted Sunder ability), or Earth's Embrace (boosted grapple ability), both from CW. 2) After looking back and forth at the ranger and monk, it came to me to give the ranger the speed boost and the monk camo related and other movement abilities. So for every 10' of speed the monk would have gotten, I gave them a different ability following this chain: Stability -> Up the Walls -> Stone Hue (Dark Hunter PrC{CW}) -> Camouflage -> Hide in Plain Sight -> Earth Glide (As an elemental) 3) Sticking with the slow and deliberate idea, I took away Evasion and Improved Evasion, as well as Still Mind to give them the three tier Earth Mastery feat chain from Races of Stone: Earth Sense -> Earth Adept -> Earth Mastery 4) Instead of Purity of Body (disease resistance), I give them Breathless (extended held breath and immunity to gas effects) 5) Instead of Diamond Body (poison immunity), I give them the Power Drop special attack, doing full unarmed damage with a trip or overrun attack a limited number of times per day. 6) The Wing Cripple special attack (limiting winged creatures ability to fly) replaces Abundant Step (a dimension door effect) 7) Grounding Stance (Resistance/10 to electricity and air based damage and a +4 to saves vs other wind effects) replaces Diamond Soul (SR 10) 8) Stone Touch petrifies instead of Quivering Palm killing 9) Ki Strike progression is changed to Lawful/earth, cold iron, adamantine from magic, lawful, adamantine. 10) Earth Press (extended rounds to prone or immobilization from trip/overrun, pin) replaces Tongue of Sun and Moon (speak all languages) 11) Leap Tackle (enhanced jump to bring flying enemies down) replaces Empty Body (Etherealness limited times per day) 12) Earth Self replaces Perfect Self, making the 20th level monk an elemental, not outsider. There. That's my complete conversion. Let the balance discussion commence. What has too much power, what didn't go far enough? [/QUOTE]

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