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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BigWeather" data-source="post: 4980784" data-attributes="member: 84877">My kids are 9 and 12 and expressed interest in playing a PnP RPG.  As a long-time subscriber to Pathfinder that was initially my first thought.  However, I was reading over the rules of some retro-clones and I realized some of the simplicity of combat (it is more abstract and less tactical) and lack of skills / feats may make a retro-clone a better introduction.  On the other hand that would be throwing out what I consider one of the best inventions of 3.x+ -- the DC.  And I don't even want to get them thinking negative AC = better!So I've decided to strip down PFRPG and then introduce elements over time.  I was thinking of starting with a subset of classes (probably fighter, wizard, cleric, and rogue -- the iconic four), ability scores, ability modifiers, AC, weapon damage, hit points, some basic spells, and DCs.  I think it is important to introduce DCs early and with that ability modifiers so they can grok that a fighter's higher strength proved crucial in opening a stuck door whereas a weaker character would've failed.Then, as they get comfortable with that I'll introduce skills, saves, more spells and a few more classes.  Finally finish up by adding in combat complexity -- if they want it, honestly we may be able to just play without it -- in terms of feats, combat maneuvers, the elements of a combat round (before this I'm thinking you get one major action per round like "attack the orc", "cast a spell", VSM, positioning, etc.  That seem like a reasonable approach (from 30,000')?</blockquote>

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