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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6374583" data-attributes="member: 15700">This is a pretty big assumption.  I don't know why there's this constant assumption that if the DM does somethign you don't like/understand, that it's the DM being out to get you in some way.  I'm not out to get the players at all.  But I run the game world like it would naturally flow regardless of the PCs Sorry, but it's not bad DMing on how the players decide what to do, where to go, and how to do it.  In fact, it's good DMing to not force players to take one particular path or not (AKA railroading).  The game world is there, all of it.  The players should have the choice to go and do whatever they want, within the power of their PCs.  A group of 8th level PCs stumble upon a small goblin tribe?  The tribe was there all the time, regardless of PC level.  They exist as part of that world.  If the players decide to burn some resources during that encounter because of something they chose to do, that's not on the DM at all.If you think Gygaxian style of play was nothing but dungeon romp from one encounter to the next with the only motivation being loot, all I gotta say is you're way off base there.  Also, just because something might not have a clearly pre-defined plot impact doesn't mean it's there with no reason or that it won't have an impact.  I would even posit that's one of the biggest points of the game: to role-play out the game and see what happens.Remote goblin tribe you stumble across as 8th level PCs that have no direct impact to the plot?  You seem to be saying it's useless and bad DMing because you're assuming the PCs will use some resources to defeat them.  Why doesn't the party try to talk/bribe them and find out more about the area?  What if the party makes allies with them and the goblins help them in the plot?  What if the party does wipe them out only to have a survivor rally other monsters to track down and hunt the party?  Just because none of that is mentioned in the official game adventure doesn't mean it can't happen.The funny thing about rpgs is that you're truly only limited by your imagination, and every single interaction in a game world is an opportunity if you want it to be.  You used an MMO analogy.  Well, I'd say get your mind out of the MMO mindset, because tabletop RPGs offer sooooo much more once you do.</blockquote>

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