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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DiFier" data-source="post: 1469542" data-attributes="member: 2345">boy this is an interisting question.  I can see the validity of the arguments on both sides.  but I have to say that I'm leaning toward power attack and CDG don't work together.  I see a big difference between a CDG and powerattack.  Reguardless of weather it is slitting an oponents neck with a dagger, or bashing them at base of the skull with a mace or pushing their nose bone into their brain by  punching them in the nose (in an upward mothion).  the CDG seems to rely on accuracy of the attack.  on the other hand powerattack is a wild swing, scarificing accuracy for damage.  it isn't important where you hit but that you hit with force.  while the feat is slightly oddly worded why should you get the bonus with out taking the penalty?   I'm a little confused by this quote.  are you saying that if you miss while applying the -x to your attack that you are not power attacking and therefore didn't take the -x from the attack so then yuo resolve the attack as iff you had not powerattacked.  you get to do regualar damage?  In a regular mele situation if you were attacking a guy with 15 ac and had +15 to hit.  You can use power attack and only give you a +10 to hit but if you hit you do an additional +5 damage.  if you only roll a 4 on your attack your total is only 14 lower that AC there for you missed. I think that the wording is the way it is so that you apply the -x to every roll (if you get 3 attacks then each of them is at -x but does +x to damage, and same with AoO) but CDG don't require attack rolls.  I'm not totally convinced but I have yet to see an argument that make me sure that power attack applies to CDG.</blockquote>

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