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<blockquote data-quote="Korak" data-source="post: 1471527" data-attributes="member: 9781"><p>People keep saying this, but it doesn't make it part of the rules...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is nothing in there about wildness, inaccuracy, or similar concepts. The bonus damage could be equally well be rationalized as aiming a heavier weapon for a crease in the armor (natural or manufactured) or other weak spot, which is naturally a smaller subset of your target and harder to hit (represented by a penalty to the attack roll) to increase your damage on a successful hit (represented by the bonus to damage). The explanation, or rationalization you use is immaterial because the rule text doesn't specify it, or care.</p><p></p><p>Power attack involves a declaration at the beginning of a creatures initiative count. That declaration has two effects: 1. all melee attack rolls made from then until the beginning of the creatures next round will be made with a penalty equal to the number declared. 2. until the creatures next initiative count, all melee damage rolls made by the creature with one handed weapons (or natural weapons or unarmed strikes) will have the number declared added as bonus damage and all melee damage rolls with two handed weapons will have twice the number declared added as bonus damage.</p><p></p><p>Nothing in the text requires that any particular attack must have both an attack and a damage roll. For instance, if the character had a charged touch spell (that doesn't cause damage) and wished to make a touch attack deliver the spell during a round that he declared a power attack number (to deal extra damage on potential AoOs with his longsword perhaps), he must take a penalty in the amount declared for power attack on his touch attack to deliver the spell.... even though he will get no additional damage, no damage roll at all, in fact.</p><p></p><p>If a creatures declares the use of the power attack feat and then makes melee attack(s) in the ensuing round, then the creature adds the bonus to melee damage roll(s) for that round. Whether the attack requires an attack roll or not is immaterial by the RAW.</p><p></p><p>Getting CDG'd is bad. Getting CDG'd by someone with sneak attack or the power attack feat is worse. Is there really something wrong with that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Korak, post: 1471527, member: 9781"] People keep saying this, but it doesn't make it part of the rules... There is nothing in there about wildness, inaccuracy, or similar concepts. The bonus damage could be equally well be rationalized as aiming a heavier weapon for a crease in the armor (natural or manufactured) or other weak spot, which is naturally a smaller subset of your target and harder to hit (represented by a penalty to the attack roll) to increase your damage on a successful hit (represented by the bonus to damage). The explanation, or rationalization you use is immaterial because the rule text doesn't specify it, or care. Power attack involves a declaration at the beginning of a creatures initiative count. That declaration has two effects: 1. all melee attack rolls made from then until the beginning of the creatures next round will be made with a penalty equal to the number declared. 2. until the creatures next initiative count, all melee damage rolls made by the creature with one handed weapons (or natural weapons or unarmed strikes) will have the number declared added as bonus damage and all melee damage rolls with two handed weapons will have twice the number declared added as bonus damage. Nothing in the text requires that any particular attack must have both an attack and a damage roll. For instance, if the character had a charged touch spell (that doesn't cause damage) and wished to make a touch attack deliver the spell during a round that he declared a power attack number (to deal extra damage on potential AoOs with his longsword perhaps), he must take a penalty in the amount declared for power attack on his touch attack to deliver the spell.... even though he will get no additional damage, no damage roll at all, in fact. If a creatures declares the use of the power attack feat and then makes melee attack(s) in the ensuing round, then the creature adds the bonus to melee damage roll(s) for that round. Whether the attack requires an attack roll or not is immaterial by the RAW. Getting CDG'd is bad. Getting CDG'd by someone with sneak attack or the power attack feat is worse. Is there really something wrong with that? [/QUOTE]
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