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<blockquote data-quote="Silver Griffon" data-source="post: 677876" data-attributes="member: 9425"><p>I think tumbling past the dragon is perfectly OK.</p><p>Here's why (Please read carefully. I know the dragon in question is only 1 or 2 sizes larger than most PC races. The point is in bold text.): Any character can move through a space occupied by a creature three or more sizes larger than itself. (I believe this is in the Player's Handbook under Movement and Position/Tactical Movement/Passing Through. AoO applies without tumble, of course.) <strong>This is because most creatures do not take up the entire area of the sqaures they occupy (gelatinous cubes excepted <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />).</strong> I don't see any reason why a trained Tumbler of small or medium size couldn't do the same thing with a size large dragon. A narrow corridor actually makes this easier for a "Jackie Chan" type who can make use of the walls to tumble off of and/or climb/run up them. Heck, he could even tumble on the dragon's body as he passes!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I do agree that the difficulty of avoiding AoOs should scale against the opponent in some way, though. I like the Ref save to avoid losing your AoO if someone tries to tumble past you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silver Griffon, post: 677876, member: 9425"] I think tumbling past the dragon is perfectly OK. Here's why (Please read carefully. I know the dragon in question is only 1 or 2 sizes larger than most PC races. The point is in bold text.): Any character can move through a space occupied by a creature three or more sizes larger than itself. (I believe this is in the Player's Handbook under Movement and Position/Tactical Movement/Passing Through. AoO applies without tumble, of course.) [B]This is because most creatures do not take up the entire area of the sqaures they occupy (gelatinous cubes excepted :)).[/B] I don't see any reason why a trained Tumbler of small or medium size couldn't do the same thing with a size large dragon. A narrow corridor actually makes this easier for a "Jackie Chan" type who can make use of the walls to tumble off of and/or climb/run up them. Heck, he could even tumble on the dragon's body as he passes!:D I do agree that the difficulty of avoiding AoOs should scale against the opponent in some way, though. I like the Ref save to avoid losing your AoO if someone tries to tumble past you. [/QUOTE]
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