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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stone Dog" data-source="post: 2931019" data-attributes="member: 16705">It wouldn't have made for good soldiers either.  Sure, everybody wants a tank now and then.  The old warforged titans filled this niche pretty well.  They were like iron golems, but easier to make and with a moderate degree of autonomy.  The creation forges that Cannith engineers brought back from Xen'Drik could increase production of warforged types to a degree that would be impossible for golems of anykind.  So they made titans to stride in battle, attack fortifications and become a battlefield presence that an iron golem could only be on a much smaller scale.However, regardless of how devestating tanks or planes or catapults or any great machine of war is, troops are still the backbone of any army.  Nobody wanted to lose the war, but they would have if they ran out of men to fight it, no matter how many iron golems were standing around waiting to be told what to do.So Cannith made troops.  They made troops that could be trained in a fraction of the time, were practically all fighters instead of mere warriors, could freely adapt to battle conditions and didn't need to sleep, eat, drink or rest.  War could actually be waged with these.  They could supplement regiments and companies in a way that a titan or a golem couldn't approach.It is the creation forges that make the warforged able to take a place on the battlefield.  Great eldritch machines reverse engineered from schema brought back from Xen'drik.  Golems still need one 16th level caster to produce ONE in... oh hell, my DMG is in storage... however many days it takes to make a 150,000 GP item.  Creation forges can make enough warforged  fighters to make a fighting force in, well it hasn't been exactly established, but in a much shorter time and with much less cost.Now somebody might turn around and say "Why don't the creation forges make golems then?"  That is just it.  They don't.  They make warforged and the designs are ancient.  It is guessed that the giants made them first, but if this is true they would have been made and abandoned before the giants created the elves in the dawn of time.  Exactly what did House Cannith bring back and unleash in their pride?  What secrets still lay in wait deep in the shifting jungles of the shattered land?  What is the true origin of the warforged?These are just some reasons I like the 'forged better than mere golems.  The mystery behind what they actually are deep down and why they were abandoned by their creators in favor of the elves.</blockquote>

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