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<blockquote data-quote="eabha" data-source="post: 1912937" data-attributes="member: 23738"><p>Hmmm. Always good being able to <em>turn undead</em>, though I am wholly unacquainted with that particular spell. Can it be put on a scroll? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good question. ECS seems to say that Artificers can work with <em>any</em> spell: "An artificer can create a magic item even if he does not have access to the spells that are prerequisites for the item. The artificer must make a successful Use Magic Device check (DC 20 + caster level) to emulate each spell normally required to create the item."</p><p></p><p>So if I'm reading this right, the UMD check here <em>is</em> the check to see if she knows certain spells. Though it is not about <em>knowing</em> spells, exactly, it is? It's about <em>emulating</em> them. Aalin knows the effect she is going for and knows how to emulate the spell to get that effect, but she never knows the spell itself. </p><p></p><p>That said, you're the DM. You can institute any rules you like...no arguments from me. </p><p></p><p>In fact, I would say that Aalin would need to understand the effects of a spell and to do that, she'd need to have access to someone who can cast it. Or actually witness the casting.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps she can only use the ones Maril taught her? Maybe as she meets more people, she'll hear about other cool spells to emulate? Such as <em>bone talisman</em>.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, just some ideas. If anyone else sees something about the Artificer that I've missed, let me know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eabha, post: 1912937, member: 23738"] Hmmm. Always good being able to [I]turn undead[/I], though I am wholly unacquainted with that particular spell. Can it be put on a scroll? Good question. ECS seems to say that Artificers can work with [I]any[/I] spell: "An artificer can create a magic item even if he does not have access to the spells that are prerequisites for the item. The artificer must make a successful Use Magic Device check (DC 20 + caster level) to emulate each spell normally required to create the item." So if I'm reading this right, the UMD check here [I]is[/I] the check to see if she knows certain spells. Though it is not about [I]knowing[/I] spells, exactly, it is? It's about [I]emulating[/I] them. Aalin knows the effect she is going for and knows how to emulate the spell to get that effect, but she never knows the spell itself. That said, you're the DM. You can institute any rules you like...no arguments from me. In fact, I would say that Aalin would need to understand the effects of a spell and to do that, she'd need to have access to someone who can cast it. Or actually witness the casting. Perhaps she can only use the ones Maril taught her? Maybe as she meets more people, she'll hear about other cool spells to emulate? Such as [I]bone talisman[/I]. Anyhow, just some ideas. If anyone else sees something about the Artificer that I've missed, let me know. [/QUOTE]
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