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<blockquote data-quote="Ferrix" data-source="post: 2034260" data-attributes="member: 6115"><p>Cool Bobitron, I don't mind being the rules guy.</p><p></p><p>Fractional Bonuses work pretty well for Gestalt or for any game mind you, but I find the hardest thing is multiclassed saves in Gestalt (it can become quite the pain). The easiest and I find most balanced way to do it is in the following manner. You find the number of levels you have with a good save in all your classes, you then look at a class with that save as a good one, go down to the level and take the save bonus there.</p><p></p><p>In this manner you don't get a ton of +2's from the first level in a bunch of classes, it also simplifies multiclassing. Basically the reason I like it this way is that it removes having to do all the math that is involved with the Fractional System and also removes the bump that can occur if you take three classes for a single level. Examples follow.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Example 1 (my character):</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Fighter-Cleric 5/Exorcist of the Silver Flame-Cleric 1/Fighter-Exorcist of the Silver Flame 2/Exorcist of the Silver Flame-Cleric 1</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong></strong> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Reflex Save: 9 bad levels (+3); Total Base Bonus +3</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong> Example 2 (someone's character):</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong> Cleric-Fighter 1/Cleric-Rogue 2/Cleric-Fighter 1/Cleric-Rogue 1/Shadowbane Stalker-Fighter 3/Shadowbane Stalker-Cleric 1</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Reflex Save: 7 good levels (+5), 2 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus (+6)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong> Example 3 (GreatLemur's character)</strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Rogue-Cleric 4/Rogue-Master Inquisitive 5</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong></strong> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Fort Save: 4 good levels (+4), 5 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus +5</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Reflex Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Will Save: 4 good levels (+4), 5 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus +5</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong> Example 4 (tyrlaan's character)</strong></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Monk-Rogue 4/Monk-Cleric 1/Monk-Shadowbane Stalker 2/Monk-Kensai 2</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong></strong> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Reflex Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></p><p>------</p><p></p><p>Also, the ammunition cost applies to each single arrow.</p><p></p><p>Thus 20 silver arrows costs 1 + (20 x 2) = 41gp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferrix, post: 2034260, member: 6115"] Cool Bobitron, I don't mind being the rules guy. Fractional Bonuses work pretty well for Gestalt or for any game mind you, but I find the hardest thing is multiclassed saves in Gestalt (it can become quite the pain). The easiest and I find most balanced way to do it is in the following manner. You find the number of levels you have with a good save in all your classes, you then look at a class with that save as a good one, go down to the level and take the save bonus there. In this manner you don't get a ton of +2's from the first level in a bunch of classes, it also simplifies multiclassing. Basically the reason I like it this way is that it removes having to do all the math that is involved with the Fractional System and also removes the bump that can occur if you take three classes for a single level. Examples follow. [size=1][b]Example 1 (my character): Fighter-Cleric 5/Exorcist of the Silver Flame-Cleric 1/Fighter-Exorcist of the Silver Flame 2/Exorcist of the Silver Flame-Cleric 1 [/b] Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 Reflex Save: 9 bad levels (+3); Total Base Bonus +3 Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 [b] Example 2 (someone's character): Cleric-Fighter 1/Cleric-Rogue 2/Cleric-Fighter 1/Cleric-Rogue 1/Shadowbane Stalker-Fighter 3/Shadowbane Stalker-Cleric 1[/b] Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 Reflex Save: 7 good levels (+5), 2 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus (+6) Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 [b] Example 3 (GreatLemur's character) Rogue-Cleric 4/Rogue-Master Inquisitive 5 [/b] Fort Save: 4 good levels (+4), 5 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus +5 Reflex Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 Will Save: 4 good levels (+4), 5 poor levels (+1); Total Base Bonus +5 [b] Example 4 (tyrlaan's character) Monk-Rogue 4/Monk-Cleric 1/Monk-Shadowbane Stalker 2/Monk-Kensai 2 [/b] Fort Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 Reflex Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 Will Save: 9 good levels (+6); Total Base Bonus +6 [/size] ------ Also, the ammunition cost applies to each single arrow. Thus 20 silver arrows costs 1 + (20 x 2) = 41gp. [/QUOTE]
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