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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JoeGKushner" data-source="post: 1887485" data-attributes="member: 1129">Getting back to your original post, I guess the real question is why FOR someone? Why not for themselves?High level characters have access to abilities that go way beyond anything a standard kingdom, or even the best spy carde could ever dream about. They will be looking for those powerful artifacts. They will be making those alliances with those powerful factions. They will be doing things to further their OWN power.20th level characters do not have to be wandering vagrants looking for a handout from a noble like 1st level characters tend to be. At 20th level, they are the patrons. They are the power behind the throne.Here's another more recent thing you might want to check out. UIt's a comic, I think it's called Supreme Power about a 'Superman' style entity (Hyperion from the old Squadron Supreme) reimainged for the modern world. The military cannot stop him. They just don't have the necessary tools like firepower and mobility to keep up with him. A group of 20th level characters is much like that.At this point, Hyperion is wondeing what HE wants to do, which is MY point. 20th level characters are going to decide which way the campaign moves in. Can the campaign effect them? Sure it can but much like the Bourne Supremacy, if you push too hard, the whole thing will collapse simply because it has to at that power level.</blockquote>