Eberron: Lord of Blades not that tough?

[Emirikol]

I was just checking out the stats for the Lord of Blades.

Ftr2/Artificer5/Warforged Juggernaut5: CR12; ph 121; AC24; Atk +12 melee (1d4+4 slam) or +13 melee (1d8+5/17-20, +1 keen adamantine two-bladed sword). AL: LE!
Stats: str 18; dex 15; con 16; int 14; wis 11; cha16

Pretty weak to be head of the Mournlands...

Thoughts?

jh

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Say, are you on some kind of anti-Eberron rampage tonight? (c.f., "Stupid Author Syndrome")

The whole point of Eberron is that there's basically no one higher than 10th-level or so.

The Lord of Blades is, at most, 20 years old. I'd say 12th-level is pretty spot on.

 

[Emirikol]

No, just like to bring up controversial topics like this one. (read my sig and you'll understand why).

jh

 

[Emirikol]

The Lord of Blades is, at most, 20 years old. I'd say 12th-level is pretty spot on.

That is probably low if he was constantly fighting during the wars..especially in the mournlands..is he from there? The article is unclear on P.16 DUNGEON 111.

jh

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

I read your sig.

That's why I was really, *really*, confused.

The "true origins" of the Lord of Blades are, as far as I know, still a secret.

EDIT:

To add, examine his class levels. He's a Ftr 2 / Artificer etc.

He's not really a front-line combatant multiclass mix, therefore, you'd expect his actual role in the fighting to be somewhat less than, say, a warforged Fighter 4 or Barbarian 3 or somesuch.

Also, it was only fairly recently in campaign terms that warforged were anything other than meatshield classes. This would indicate that the Lord of Blades is, perhaps, one of the last of the 'forged to have been produced.

 

[Megatron]

CR has nothing to do with spheres of influence or power.


Also, If you actually look around, you'll find that the LoBster is statted out several different ways. They aren't going to give him a definite statblock.

 

[Emirikol]

CR has nothing to do with spheres of influence or power.

No doubt an encounter with him would have a really high EL. He's listed to be surrounded by lieutenants and probably lots of 'kinda' loyal troops. Heh. My guess is probably the breakdown like this:

Population is 980 warforged (probably about 70% loyal to LoBster)
Roughly 500 x 1000 miles = 500,000 square miles of NOTHINGNESS
Roughly 2 warforged per 1000 square miles.
One Lieutenant per 100 warforged = 7 Lieutenants.

LoBster
2 attendant lieutenants (other five spread out or on patrol) CR 8 each
100 personal warforged (other 600 spread out or on patrol) CR 2 each

That's an EL of what?

jh

 

[hong]

The whole point of Eberron is that there's basically no one higher than 10th-level or so.

... well, not until in two years' time anyway, when the first Eberron campaigns will be hitting 15th level and people will start wanting uber NPCs to kill.

 

[Spatula]

Thoughts?

He's not a world-shattering threat like the other big baddies in the setting. Which means he makes a good defeatable villian for the PCs to face before they're strong enough to directly oppose the Lords of Dust, the Dreaming Dark, etc.

It's been said that the intention is that the LoB can grow with the PCs, and it is easier to add levels (to make him a proper match for the group) than to take them away. 12th level makes him pretty bad-ass, in the scheme of things, and sets him up as a foe that can't be taken out until you hit at least 9th-10th level. But, if you need him to be stronger, it's not difficult to make him so.

 

[Starman]

Spatula has hit the nail on the head. The Eberron book states that the villains should gain in strength along with the PCs. If you intend to have the PCs face someone like the Lord of Blades at a lower level, great. If they run into him at a higher level, just tack on some more class levels to him.

Look at some of the sample antagonists in the back of the book. There's a reason they give examples of them at several different levels of power.

Basically, there's no set level for any of the baddies in Eberron. They are whatever level they are needed to be a to present a challenge to your PCs.

Starman