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<blockquote data-quote="Cabral" data-source="post: 2811674" data-attributes="member: 1193">You can alway set the caster level below your own, as long as the Caster Level is sufficient for the effect.for example,Also see <a href="http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicItemBasics.htm#casterLevel" target="_blank">Caster Level</a>Since the spell is 1st level, you can set the caster level to 1 and save. 16,000 gp on the gloves and 32,000 gp on the tools. (which translates into a savings of 8,000 gp and 640 xp to create the item, x2 for the tools. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />)As for your band of the extraordinary artisans, I still don't like that it stacks with the feats, epic or not. I was ballparking 50k gp for an item that grants one of the artisan feats and does not stack with them.&nbsp; Even then, I think this defeats the flavor of the feats...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cabral, post: 2811674, member: 1193"] You can alway set the caster level below your own, as long as the Caster Level is sufficient for the effect. for example, Also see [url=http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicItemBasics.htm#casterLevel]Caster Level[/url] Since the spell is 1st level, you can set the caster level to 1 and save. 16,000 gp on the gloves and 32,000 gp on the tools. (which translates into a savings of 8,000 gp and 640 xp to create the item, x2 for the tools. :D) As for your band of the extraordinary artisans, I still don't like that it stacks with the feats, epic or not. I was ballparking 50k gp for an item that grants one of the artisan feats and does [I]not[/I] stack with them. Even then, I think this defeats the flavor of the feats... [/QUOTE]

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