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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2433600" data-attributes="member: 23094">OK, here we go:Let's assume that you're a level 1 Shifter Monk with the Razorclaw trait.  Moreover, I'm guessing that the RC trait grants you two claw attacks at 1d4 each.  You have the following options (where the +Y is your BAB, and +X is your Strength bonus to damage):<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Single Attack (Standard Action)<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk Attack: Unarmed Strike +0, 1d6+X</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Natural Attack 1: Claw +0, 1d4+X</li> </ol></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Full Attack (Full-Round Action)<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk Attack: Unarmed Strike +0, 1d6+X</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Natural Attack: 2 Claws +0, 1d4+X</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Monk Attack & Natural Attack: Unarmed Strike +0, 1d6+X; 2 Claws -5, 1d4+.5X</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Flurry of Blows: Unarmed Strike -2 / -2, 1d6+X</li> </ol></li> </ul>Now, the rationale:1.  Unarmed strikes do not need to be made with the hands; they may be made with feet, headbuts, knees-to-the-groin, boots-to-the-head, etc.  Accordingly, using unarmed strike does not impede use of claws.2.  Similarly, unarmed strikes and claws are completely different weapons.  One is, for purposes of this discussion, a manufactured weapon.  The other is a natural weapon, and therefore follows its own rules.3.  When using natural weapons and manufactured weapons together, the manufactured weapons are primary, and the natural weapons are treated as secondary.  Normally, this means that they take a -5 penalty on to-hit rolls and only apply .5 of your Strength modifier to damage.  However, because of the feats you specified, secondary natural attacks are made at no penalty, though the .5 Strength mod still applies.4.  This one's important!  Whenever you use Flurry of Blows, you are limited to using unarmed strikes and monk-specific weapons.  A natural attack form is not a monk-specific weapon, nor is it an unarmed strike.  Accordingly, you may not use them at the same time you are using Flurry of Blows.  Some people believe that this means you may use them after a Flurry of Blows, but in the same sequence of attacks.  I believe that view to be complete pish.  Check with your DM, however.</blockquote>

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