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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bluenose" data-source="post: 6776381" data-attributes="member: 49017">It's not something I'd associate particularly with Traditional Fantasy. In fact my first thought when a knight in shining armour comes along with no context is historical fiction, followed by romance fiction, and only then fantasy, and I wouldn't think of any particular type of fantasy even if in some cases the Knight in Armour is more likely a deconstruction or even parody. Yes, and Glorantha is another of similar age with a very different style. No, though they're a symptom. Excessive amounts of magic, magic doing far more than it could in the oldest editions, magic being far more likely to work at high levels when directed at enemies, a marked expansion in the variety of magic items, more codification of skills (compared to 1e and BECM certainly). It's not a new version of 3e but that's the direction it's facing.</blockquote>