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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuindordm" data-source="post: 1599992" data-attributes="member: 5435">The thing about the warforged is that their extra powers are all defensive innature.  I think you can stack a bunch of defensive abilities on a race and still have it balanced for ECL 0, because whether or not the abilities come intoplay is almost entirely up to the DM.  Sure, you could get an all-warforgedparty going to clear out the disease-ridden swamps of Gorn and capitalizingon one of their immunities, but in a mixed party all these extras are going tobe handy only once in a while.  They don't translate into raw power the waythat the half-orc or hobgoblin +2 to Str does.(Tangent!)I'm starting to wonder, actually, what advantages a warforged unit would haveover a human unit in the army.You never need to feed them, and you don't need to worry about them gettingdysentary.  They don't get drunk, drugged, or tired.  They can keep fighting allday if necessary.But--they get wounded just as easily as a human, need to be repaired byartificers, and are still subject to almost all the same magic--even fear spells.I think the main advantage of the basic warforged is independence and mobility.If you need to get a unit somewhere fast, you can force-march the warforgedall day and all night and they'll be good to go when you get there. You can alsosend them off without a supply train, or leave them somewhere for monthsjust waiting to spring an ambush.  That's a pretty cool benefit.  It's not that they'resuch awesome fighters (I question whether generating an adamantine warforgedis cost-effective compared to an armored knight), but that they can do things thathuman units can't.  The more I think about it, the more they sound monkish rather than tankish. AndI never hear anyone complaining about monks being overpowered.--Ben</blockquote>

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