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Message: <blockquote data-quote="d4" data-source="post: 1626085" data-attributes="member: 12699">but to support a Renaissance-era type of civilization, a certain amount of infrastructure (including settled and cultivated land) is required. at the population densities we're talking about here (2-4 people per square mile) it becomes much, much harder to support.also, that land must usually be rather compactly connected. if a nation did have large swaths of monster-haunted wasteland within its borders, it'd be very hard for it to remain a unified nation. trade and communication are vital for a nation. if a city is cut off from its rural hinterland, it starves to death. if the rural hinterlands are cut off from the city, they lose their source of manufactured goods and regress.that's why i've asked before about determining the amount of settled land on the continent. obviously taking the civilized population and the total area of the continent is going to give a very skewed result. i'd like to see what the population density of the actual settled regions is.that's quite high, i'd think. if powerful predatory creatures were so common that they needed that much room, i'd think there wouldn't be any civilization left -- or hardly any prey for that matter.</blockquote>