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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hellcow" data-source="post: 2958922" data-attributes="member: 15800">Certainly, but the point in my mind is that the Lords of Dust aren't a "group" in the same sense as the Dreaming Dark. The Council of Ashtakala meets to keep people from stepping on each other's toes, but the servants of each overlord are, by and large, following their own agendas. So in other words, if Tiamat is an overlord, her followers don't necessarily have regular traffic with the followers of Katashka or Sul Khatesh; their agendas may even be at cross purposes. As Tiamat's servants are dragons, they may refuse to associate with the Council of Ashtakala, even IF Tiamat is an overlord. Lack of unity among the overlords was the main reason they were defeated.  While meanwhile, I like the idea of Tiamat being an overlord precisely BECAUSE I'd want to tie her to Eberron. The overlords are an extremely diverse lot (some day you'll see another one in Dungeon or Dragon, and see how it varies from Sul Khatesh); what they have in common is that they are the primal evils of this world. Since dragons aren't outsiders, I'd prefer to keep this dark shadow of dragonkind on Eberron as opposed to tying it to one of the other planes. I could see the argument that she was spawned by Khyber TO corrupt the children of Siberys... Khyber's final curse on her enemy.Xoriat is certainly an option, but then it comes down to personality. In my opinion, the lords of Xoriat (along with most non-native outsiders) are VERY alien in the way they think and act. The rakshasa are in some ways the most "human" of the outsiders because they are children of the same plane as humanity. If Tiamat is of Eberron, she can act like a powerful dragon of Eberron; if she's a powerful outsider of another plane, I'd expect her actions to be in some way suggestive of the plane she embodies. With that said, I often see Xoriat being the plane of horror as much as madness... and Tiamat could certainly be a primal terror and the embodiment of the madness of dragons.   In any case, it's all a matter of opinion. I think that all of the ideas presented on this thread are good ones, and I'm interested to see what else people come up with!(One odd option, if you want to play with tradition, would be to say that she DOESN'T only have the heads of chromatic dragons... but rather that the heads of Tiamat change every time she manifests, so your PCs could encounter a Tiamat with all metallic heads!)</blockquote>

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