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Message: <blockquote data-quote="earthsea_wizard" data-source="post: 9762287" data-attributes="member: 7049259">It is interesting how when we talk about pulp in relation to D&D, we almost always mean sword and sorcery and its various offshoots. Conan, Lankhmar, Princess of Mars, Elric, Dying Earth and so forth. But when we talk about Eberron we mean Indiana Jones and the Mummy. You almost never see any pulp examples given by people talking about Eberron beyond those. Even Keith is guilty of this, despite the fact that he consistently lists Robert E. Howard, Jack Vance and Burroughs as three of his favorite authors and is of the age to have grown up with those stories as definitiive examples pulp literature.Raiders of the Lost Ark was definitely part of the dying gasp of pulp in the early 1980s (having had its peak in the 60s and 70s), but is no way definitiive of the entire genre. And the Mummy of course is a later homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark, but is itself a step removed from the tradition.It does Eberron a disservice to not have listed more and better references as to what pulp means if they are going to use it as the catchphrase for the entire setting. Especially when people already have good reason to associate D&D and Pulp with the authors I listed (they come up repeatedly in the history of D&D).The authors I mentioned aren't the only examples of pulp, but are some of the pillars of it. Nor is Indiana Jones the epitome of pulp (and is further removed from it than said authors). There is a whole lot in between, but pulp in Eberron doesn't actually mean pulp, it means two specific movies that are only loosely connected to the wealth of pulp that came before them.</blockquote>

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