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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hamburger Mary" data-source="post: 1478124" data-attributes="member: 17363">I missed the specific mention of invisibility. Obviously this is a trivial point, but do you really think it would turn the world upside down? Since wizards and sorcerers are uncommon, let's assume that we're talking about a 5th-level adept. He can turn invisible for 5 minutes once per day. Move Silently, Disable Device, Open Locks, and Search are not class skills for him. Provided his target doesn't have a good Listen check, he can wait for his target to unlock a door and follow him through it, but remember, he only has 5 minutes of invisibility! When he runs into a safe with an excellent lock, he's out of luck. And I'll point out that between the magewright and the adept, see invisibility, detect magic, alarm, and arcane lock are all out there -- but knock is only available to the rarer sorcerer and wizard. If invisibility lasted for 10 min/level, I'd see it as being more of a world-shattering effect for purposes of crime and espionage -- but 1 min/level doesn't seem like enough time to get into a lot of trouble.Now, the sorcerer/rogue with invisibility, knock, Hide, Move Silently, Search, and Disable Device? That's another story. But that's exactly the point. In Eberron, characters with PC classes are supposed to be rare and remarkable. Such a character would be a devilish thief who is constantly outwitting the city guard; they'd have to turn to equally capable PC characters to bring down this uncommon thief.</blockquote>

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