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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hamburger Mary" data-source="post: 1478901" data-attributes="member: 17363">Sure, but detect magic, alarm, and see invisibility all can. And as you say, shoplifters, pursesnatchers and pickpockets can all do this without magic, so what's really changed? You take invisibility, I'll take Sleight of Hand +11 (assuming a 5th level character with a +3 Dex modifier). Anyhow, fair enough. We disagree. (Of course, I don't think every shop is going to have someone sitting there using see invisibility all the time, because I don't think magic is going to be that prevalent. But in an important high-security area -- a king's throne room -- it could be done.)And I didn't mean to be hypocritical. I was refering specifically to your post about fantasy being a backless maiden, which I thought was a good image. My point was that I can look at it and say "Yup, it's hollow, but at least I've thrown a handful of sand in there" and that makes me happy. I don't need to fill it, but I'd rather acknowledge that it's hollow than overlook it completely. Actually, that wasn't my intention at all, and I apologize if that's how it came across. It's clear that isn't what you want. What I was meant was that you appeared to be saying that I *couldn't* explore magic slightly without taking it all the way. That the moment I throw continual flame onto the streets, I should be considering all of its myriad implications. I'm just saying that I can take one step without feeling the need to go all the way, and that taking that one step makes me feel better about the world. However, from the tone of your last message, I gather that I've offended you. If so, I apologize. I've felt that we've been at a standstill all along, I've just enjoyed the discussion and been interested in your ideas. I asked about invisibility because I wanted to know what you thought could be done with it, not because I wanted to prove you were wrong. I don't feel that there is a right or wrong here; I feel that your opinion makes perfect sense, it's just different from mine. Anyhow, thanks for the discussion, and I suppose it's high time to let it die! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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