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[lordxaviar]

im working an old module and the mixture of Cr's makes it hard to figure the Ecl for example.... the encounter has

1 cr 4
and 30 cr 2.. I have no clue how to go about this...as its off their chart and yes its ants.. its a 1st edition and this was set for 5-7 th Lv its now more of a 6-8th but im trying to get the treasures right and this sort of thing is hard...there is more

4 creatures.... one cr 7 , one cr 5 one cr 4 and the last cr 3 what does this come out to

anyone?


it also has piercers, have those been up dated to 3.5? I have one version but it made thier acid way too strong, from what it was...

 

[the Jester]

im working an old module and the mixture of Cr's makes it hard to figure the Ecl for example.... the encounter has

1 cr 4
and 30 cr 2.. I have no clue how to go about this...as its off their chart and yes its ants..

First, the methodology I used in 3.x:

Double the number of creatures, increase the EL by 2.

So for this encounter, I would look at it this way:

2 x CR 2 = EL 4
4 x CR 2 = EL 6
8 x CR 2 = EL 8
16 x CR 2 = EL 10
32 x CR 2 = EL 12

So since you have 30 CR 2 guys, you have an EL 11 encounter by RAW, not counting the CR 4 guy. However, in this case, as the CR 4 guy is roughly equivalent to 2 CR 2 guys, the encounter is EL 12 overall.

A mass of lower level monsters isn't nearly as tough as a single CR 12 monster would be, though; this is often the weakest form of high-EL encounter that pcs face.

4 creatures.... one cr 7 , one cr 5 one cr 4 and the last cr 3 what does this come out to

Okay, another bit of methodology is that if you have a creature of CR x and a creature of CR x-2 together, their EL is x+1.

So:

CR 3 + CR 5 = EL 6.
CR 4 + EL 6 = EL 7.
CR 7 + EL 7 = EL 9.

it also has piercers, have those been up dated to 3.5? I have one version but it made thier acid way too strong, from what it was...

3e has darkmantles. They are what piercers have evolved into.

 

[lordxaviar]

thanx jester.... this should help alot... I worked on the piercer a bit...will post in the homebrews....

and will look into the other....thanx agan

 

[freyar]

There are some online versions (one I keep locally just to have handy, see my sig). But here are a couple versions of the same thing (based on the same original web pages):

Hypertext SRD version
version at the Kyngdoms
Creature Catalog version-

They tell you the EL and a different ways to calculate XP rewards, sometimes spotting distances, etc.

 

[lordxaviar]

thanx freyar that last one is right on... allows me to mix up the numbers...