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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 944314" data-attributes="member: 1656">Yeeea-ah... although a 4-level caster level hit is vicious for a primary caster class.Fighter types are four points behind on BAB and 4 hit dice... but by mid levels, the Con bonus makes up for the hit dice, and the Str bonus compensates a little for the BAB.  The major hurt for fighters is that 4 points of BAB means they're almost always one iterative attack behind.But I really believe all the benefits make up for that - especially for a Paladin, and not at all bad for a Monk either.The Cha bonus is pleasant for a sorcerer, but you're two whole spell levels behind the curve, and can never get 9th-level spells pre-epic.-Hyp.</blockquote>