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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 83227" data-attributes="member: 713">I meant Straight Cleric, maybe picking up the Battle Cleric PrC from Defenders if that helps.In a short battle, a fully stocked Cleric preparing spells to enhance combat will often outshine a straight fighter. Start mixing the levels and you have problems because you no longer have the higher level spells like Divine Power.Once the cleric has started using up his or her best spells, then the fighter has a chance.The ECL system doesn't work if there is only one class that you can take for a particular race.Back to your original statement, actually a Dwarven Mage can be extremely effective because of their bonus to resist opponent spells and Con bonus. The Dwarven Sorcerer or Bard isn't as good, but that is only two classes out of eleven. I would like to see a Centaur Druid, Cleric, Rogue, something other than one of the Fighter types before I decide if the ECL is correct.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bret, post: 83227, member: 713"] I meant Straight Cleric, maybe picking up the Battle Cleric PrC from Defenders if that helps. In a short battle, a fully stocked Cleric preparing spells to enhance combat will often outshine a straight fighter. Start mixing the levels and you have problems because you no longer have the higher level spells like Divine Power. Once the cleric has started using up his or her best spells, then the fighter has a chance. The ECL system doesn't work if there is only one class that you can take for a particular race. Back to your original statement, actually a Dwarven Mage can be extremely effective because of their bonus to resist opponent spells and Con bonus. The Dwarven Sorcerer or Bard isn't as good, but that is only two classes out of eleven. I would like to see a Centaur Druid, Cleric, Rogue, something other than one of the Fighter types before I decide if the ECL is correct. [/QUOTE]

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