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<blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 83321" data-attributes="member: 474"><p>Let's see what we can do. Make two characters with the stadnard stat array. The human: Str 15+3 level, Dex 13, Con 14+2 level, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8. The centaur: Str 15+8 racial+1 level, Dex 10+4 racial, Con 14+4 level+4 racial, Int 13-2 racial, Wis 10+2 racial, Cha 8.</p><p></p><p>The total stats (before magic items) are as follows.</p><p>Human: Str 18, Dex 13, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8</p><p>Centaur: Str 26, Dex 14, Con 22, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 8</p><p></p><p>The human has a a <em>+6 belt of giant strength</em> (36,000 gp), a <em>+6 amulet of health</em> (36,000 gp), and an <em>incandescent blue ioun stone</em> (8,000 gp).</p><p>The centaur has a a <em>+6 belt of giant strength</em> (36,000 gp), a <em>deep red ioun stone</em> (8,000 gp), a <em>+6 amulet of health</em> (36,000 gp), and a <em>scarlet and blue ioun stone</em> (8,000 gp).</p><p></p><p>The total stats (after magic items) are as follows.</p><p>Human: Str 24, Dex 13, Con 22, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 8</p><p>Centaur: Str 32, Dex 16, Con 28, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 8</p><p></p><p>The human has 20d10+120 hit points, for an average of 230.</p><p>The centaur has 4d8+12d10+144 hit points, for an average of 228.</p><p></p><p>The centaur wears <em>+4 mithral full plate barding of heavy fortification</em> (123,600 gp) and a (modified) <em>+4 ring of proetction</em> (32,000 gp).</p><p>The human wears <em>+5 full plate of heavy fortification</em> (101,650 gp) and a <em>+5 ring of protection</em> (50,000 gp).</p><p></p><p>Centaur AC: 31 (+12 <em>full plate</em>, +3 Dex, +2 natural, +4 <em>ring of protection</em>)</p><p>Human AC: 29 (+13 <em>full plate</em>, +1 Dex, +5 <em>ring of protection</em>)</p><p></p><p>The human wields a <em>+5 flaming speed greatsword</em>, attacking at +33/+33/+28/+23/+18 for 2d6+17 damage.</p><p>The centaur wields a <em>+5 flaming speed Huge greatsword</em>, attacking at +32/+32/+27/+22/+17 for 2d8+23 damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The centaur has about the same number of hit points and about the same attack bonuses, dealing 40% more damage (35% if flaming damage works). The human has more bonus feats, though both have the "core" feats - Focus, Specialization, Improved Crit, Power attack, Cleave, etc.</p><p></p><p>The Armor Classes are similar (though the centaur has a slight edge).</p><p></p><p>The human decidedly has the edge in skills, though the centaur has better Spot and Listen scores. The human also has a higher base attack bonus (+20 vs. +16).</p><p></p><p>The centaur has decidedly better stats than the human.</p><p></p><p>The gold spent in this excercise was neasrly identical for both the centaur and human; they botrh spent about 60% of their baseline.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CRGreathouse, post: 83321, member: 474"] Let's see what we can do. Make two characters with the stadnard stat array. The human: Str 15+3 level, Dex 13, Con 14+2 level, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8. The centaur: Str 15+8 racial+1 level, Dex 10+4 racial, Con 14+4 level+4 racial, Int 13-2 racial, Wis 10+2 racial, Cha 8. The total stats (before magic items) are as follows. Human: Str 18, Dex 13, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 10, Cha 8 Centaur: Str 26, Dex 14, Con 22, Int 11, Wis 12, Cha 8 The human has a a [i]+6 belt of giant strength[/i] (36,000 gp), a [i]+6 amulet of health[/i] (36,000 gp), and an [i]incandescent blue ioun stone[/i] (8,000 gp). The centaur has a a [i]+6 belt of giant strength[/i] (36,000 gp), a [i]deep red ioun stone[/i] (8,000 gp), a [i]+6 amulet of health[/i] (36,000 gp), and a [i]scarlet and blue ioun stone[/i] (8,000 gp). The total stats (after magic items) are as follows. Human: Str 24, Dex 13, Con 22, Int 12, Wis 12, Cha 8 Centaur: Str 32, Dex 16, Con 28, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 8 The human has 20d10+120 hit points, for an average of 230. The centaur has 4d8+12d10+144 hit points, for an average of 228. The centaur wears [i]+4 mithral full plate barding of heavy fortification[/i] (123,600 gp) and a (modified) [i]+4 ring of proetction[/i] (32,000 gp). The human wears [i]+5 full plate of heavy fortification[/i] (101,650 gp) and a [i]+5 ring of protection[/i] (50,000 gp). Centaur AC: 31 (+12 [i]full plate[/i], +3 Dex, +2 natural, +4 [i]ring of protection[/i]) Human AC: 29 (+13 [i]full plate[/i], +1 Dex, +5 [i]ring of protection[/i]) The human wields a [i]+5 flaming speed greatsword[/i], attacking at +33/+33/+28/+23/+18 for 2d6+17 damage. The centaur wields a [i]+5 flaming speed Huge greatsword[/i], attacking at +32/+32/+27/+22/+17 for 2d8+23 damage. The centaur has about the same number of hit points and about the same attack bonuses, dealing 40% more damage (35% if flaming damage works). The human has more bonus feats, though both have the "core" feats - Focus, Specialization, Improved Crit, Power attack, Cleave, etc. The Armor Classes are similar (though the centaur has a slight edge). The human decidedly has the edge in skills, though the centaur has better Spot and Listen scores. The human also has a higher base attack bonus (+20 vs. +16). The centaur has decidedly better stats than the human. The gold spent in this excercise was neasrly identical for both the centaur and human; they botrh spent about 60% of their baseline. [/QUOTE]
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