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ECL of Planetouched races too High?
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<blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 881712" data-attributes="member: 2829"><p>Like the monk, and the monk alone, gets to add his Wisdom bonus to AC? It's not a stretch. Heck, the monk gets to add both Wisdom _and_ Dexterity to his AC. What was mentioned for fire genasi is about _swapping_ their primary spellcasting ability score for a different one. Compared to the monk, that doesn't seem like a big deal or a wild and crazy idea that breaks the boundaries of 3rd edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I currently play a fire genasi fighter, and to be honest, its the most fun I've ever had with a character (except for my literary characters, but that's a whole different ballgame). It definately sucks with the +1 ECL, and you can believe me, I feel it every step of the way.</p><p></p><p>Actually, now that I think about it, this is some really useful info I could share. Let me run down the party; I play a fire genasi, there's an air genasi cleric, a tiefling, and a dwarven fighter. The dwarven fighter and tiefling are really close in their strength's, but the dwarf definately takes the cake as far as power is concerned. The air genasi cleric and my fire genasi fighter lag behind the tiefling quite a bit, and way further behind the dwarf.</p><p></p><p>As a simple fighter, I can tell you that my fire genasi is no match at all, in any way shape or form, against that dwarf. His racial abilities simply don't make up for the loss of a level. Not by a longshot. Like I said, the air genasi and tiefling suffer from this as well, but with such a clear cut simplistic fighter, my fire genasi is the most pronounced.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IIRC, its got about a page and a half on fire genasi, maybe two. There's really not that much there, but what is there is kinda cool, except for those really lame anime illustrations. Don't get me wrong. I like anime just fine, but not when it comes to D&D. Ugh.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's all good. So did I. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kreynolds, post: 881712, member: 2829"] Like the monk, and the monk alone, gets to add his Wisdom bonus to AC? It's not a stretch. Heck, the monk gets to add both Wisdom _and_ Dexterity to his AC. What was mentioned for fire genasi is about _swapping_ their primary spellcasting ability score for a different one. Compared to the monk, that doesn't seem like a big deal or a wild and crazy idea that breaks the boundaries of 3rd edition. I currently play a fire genasi fighter, and to be honest, its the most fun I've ever had with a character (except for my literary characters, but that's a whole different ballgame). It definately sucks with the +1 ECL, and you can believe me, I feel it every step of the way. Actually, now that I think about it, this is some really useful info I could share. Let me run down the party; I play a fire genasi, there's an air genasi cleric, a tiefling, and a dwarven fighter. The dwarven fighter and tiefling are really close in their strength's, but the dwarf definately takes the cake as far as power is concerned. The air genasi cleric and my fire genasi fighter lag behind the tiefling quite a bit, and way further behind the dwarf. As a simple fighter, I can tell you that my fire genasi is no match at all, in any way shape or form, against that dwarf. His racial abilities simply don't make up for the loss of a level. Not by a longshot. Like I said, the air genasi and tiefling suffer from this as well, but with such a clear cut simplistic fighter, my fire genasi is the most pronounced. IIRC, its got about a page and a half on fire genasi, maybe two. There's really not that much there, but what is there is kinda cool, except for those really lame anime illustrations. Don't get me wrong. I like anime just fine, but not when it comes to D&D. Ugh. It's all good. So did I. :) [/QUOTE]
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