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Message: <blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 882315" data-attributes="member: 7859">kreynolds,I think you might have fallen victum to the Pet Monkey Condudrum.  The Condudrum is as follows: You have this pet monkey that you have raised since it's infancy and because of that reason you are rather fond of this monkey.  Unfortunately this monkey has a few kinks, like flining poo, and drinking all the beer in the fridge and leaving the toliet seat up, and having fleas and generally not the best fit for a civilized lifestyle.  (Like most roomates alas)  Unfortunately due to said attatchment to the Monkey, you alas are very reluctant to remove its influence in your life for a more appropriate fit. (btw the secret password is "Alas")Alas, Kreynolds the fire gensai might, just might be your Monkey <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Do you really believe that any of the top flight D20 designers out there; Monte, Andy, Sean, etc would look at the negative charisma equal a positivie and say "by Jove tis brillant" in a Monty Python sounding voice.I like your posts, I think you have an exceptional handle on ECL matters, but this proposed solution lacks  Elegance.I mean elegance in mathmatecial terms,(proper spelling btw is not included in this post send $3.99 to teach Satori01 how to spell at ...).  Your solution can work, like many possible solutions but it causes quite a few problems, and isnt the most natural fit.I think you know this deep down, but after all it is your monkey, come on Kreynolds get the monkey off your back, come on kick the monkey, we know you can, we know you want to Kick the monkey....</blockquote>

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